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Aaron Wilson: Tepper's patience with Rhule growing thin
Toomers replied to UNCrules2187's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yep. Hash pipe illusion based dream scenario. The Steelers went into the season with Trubiskey as the bridge starter until a rookie QB is ready. No one was thinking Super Bowl to begin with. 9-10 wins was always the ceiling. That was before TJ Watt got hurt. The Rooneys don’t overreact to one season when they have a proven HC. Cowher had 3 losing seasons(2 in a row) and they never even thought about parting ways. And as stated above, Tomlin sure ain’t going anywhere now that he’s in control of what he wants to be. He was interviewing the GMs this time. Not being hired by one. -
I’d rather take my chances with Skylar Thompson if it was a choice between him and Darnold.
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Instead, they signed him to be the starter for 34M guaranteed. I can’t imagine the outrage there would have been if Hebert lasted another pick and the Panthers passed on him or traded down. Teddy was their guy and they paid him to start. Not just a bridge. If Teddy just gets about 8M for that year, normal bridge/quality backup QB money, I don’t think anyone would be complaining about his signing here. But 31M and a 3rd round comp pick is/was tough to explain. Especially when Dalton got 3M, Jameis 1M, Cam 1M, And Right on cue…Teddy realized it was the 4th quarter.
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The trading team would pay his remaining base salary. The Panthers have to account for the 18.5M(not 19.5M) off dead cap before next off-season. So they would have to use 9.25M of their close to 10M total right now.
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I dug a little deeper and the team can split it up with next year. It will still be gone before off-season, but it’s not impossible. In fact it brings Shaq and Robbie into play. They are making league minimum for any team that trades for them. The Panthers only have around 10M right now. So CMC would be really tough.
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No. Erving has a little room but they sure don’t want to extend him. And it would only be 3M at most. Every other bet is making league minimum base salary already because of the “cap ninja” moves in the off-season.
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That’s not the issue. The Panthers don’t have the cap space to take a 19.5M cap hit this year. Which is what happens when he’s traded.
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Panthers were one pick away from Justin Herbert...
Toomers replied to PantherBoy95's topic in Carolina Panthers
Going to a draft prospects pro day doesn’t mean he would have been the pick. Rhule sent Hurney because he had no intention of taking any QB. No Rhule, Brady, or Sean Ryan. Rhule bet on Teddy. As was said many times back then….you don’t pay a “bridge QB” 21M/yr and 34M guaranteed. They were passing on Hebert no matter what. -
Is there any reason to keep Robbie Anderson after this year?
Toomers replied to Snake's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yep. And it still costs about 19M then. Which should go well with the 20M hole that’s already been dug. -
Is there any reason to keep Robbie Anderson after this year?
Toomers replied to Snake's topic in Carolina Panthers
CMC would cost 19.5M in EXTRA cap space, immediately, if he’s traded now. RA about 10M. And they already restructured every vet on team but Erving. That “mythical” salary cap does have consequences when you borrow from the future to build 5 win teams. -
Is there any reason to keep Robbie Anderson after this year?
Toomers replied to Snake's topic in Carolina Panthers
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We are talking about 2 different games. I thought you meant this Sunday vs Jets. When they blew it in under 2 minutes. Haven’t seen the week one game so you were and are correct. My mistake.
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The Browns took the lead of 13 with 2:00 to go on a drive that they threw once on 3rd down. And only got the ball back on offense after they were behind. What game did you watch?
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At what point does Fitterer start taking heat too?
Toomers replied to BIGH2001's topic in Carolina Panthers
And if Beane took a job where he had no control over what he’s judged on, that would be relevant. Beane was also an assistant GM. Not a full GM who we are supposed to treat like he didn’t exist during any of his time in Carolina. -
At what point does Fitterer start taking heat too?
Toomers replied to BIGH2001's topic in Carolina Panthers
That’s pretty much confirms it’s correct. He took the job as a yes man. Live with your decisions. Pretty simple concept. -
Been a long time, but watching the replay I thought the same thing. Much of last year too. And I was as high on Brown as anyone. Still want the Steelers to trade with y’all for him. But his effort looks pitiful. And the DEF is/will be historically bad against the run if he isn’t in the game. This past week….. Chubb/Hunt with Brown in game-3.6 YPC Chubb/Hunt without Brown in game-8.6 YPC. They surrounded him with no one who can play the run at an even average level. It will be worse than 2019 if Brown gets hurt.
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It’s the entire reason I knew that 49ers draft rumor was BS. Why trade 3 1sts for a QB that, if he reaches his ceiling, you get the same caliber QB? They were swinging for a HR, not a single
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Preach!!!!
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Especially only 3.4M in space. I’m sure the Dolphins think he’s more trouble than he’s worth. But somehow, someway, BB gets a talent at lowest value and has no downside in this. Added bonus of making Dolphins look bad. But you can’t make it this easy for him. The Pats have talent on offense, but Mac Jones has got to adjust to going downfield more. Teams started flooding the underneath zones and he couldn’t make throws that would back them off. Jones has to learn how to hit a curveball this year. And without McDaniels.
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Fun fact. That’s not a Steelers site mock. It’s from Doug Farrah who has a Safety going #1 overall if you want to know the extent of his knowledge. Everybody became a draft “expert” in the past 5 years. And I’m sure Tomlin, and most smart HCs/GMs run and tell everyone they can which prospects they “love” in the weeks leading up to the draft. Much like the 49ers traded 3 1st for Mac Jones last year.
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CMC was a no win situation. Well almost. I remember when his 1,000/1,000 season ended, I reminded everyone it was time to pay him. But every different choice had legit merit. He was the best RB in the league, and made for todays game. So his contract wasn’t out of hand. Especially since he had been healthy his whole career until then. Trading him for a haul wasn’t a bad idea since there was a rebuild(or should have been) going on and no sense giving a RB a long term contract. Let him play out his last two years on rookie deal and 5th year option. CMC would have held out, and rightfully so. Same reason teams don’t want to pay a RB is why he wanted his security before he played again. It was the first time he had leverage in his career. None of these options were unreasonable. The RB blues just finally caught up to him.
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Practice squad costs about 3-3.5M. 52 and 53rd players cost 1.4M. Draft about 5.5M
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Who? They would nuts to touch CMCs deal and wouldn’t get but about 6M at most anyhow. Who else? Now Daley will be cut at some time. That’s 2.5M to the good.
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Kenny Pickett > Malik Willis (at least for us)
Toomers replied to janderson20vt's topic in Carolina Panthers
If I had to guess, and it’s more of what I would do. I think they see what happens day one with the QBs and draft DL or CB at 20. Have to figure out if Tuitt is playing this year. Mitch is the perfect, low risk bridge and it’s much cheaper to jump up in 2nd if one they like falls. Just don’t think they want Pickett. Usually anything you hear about them in public is smokescreen. And 2nd is a more reasonable risk for Howell, Corral, Strong, Ridder. And if Mitch can’t thrive in this situation, he never will.