SteveSmithTD89

The fact this test is scored out of 99 instead of 100 makes me irrationally angry and hate this and never want to hear about S2 ever again.

Drew Rosenhaus, Carter's agent, was the one who told teams he's not going because he has gotten those same assurances from several teams in the top 10 about where his floor is. Me personally I wouldn't touch the kid with a 10 foot pole but it wasn't like Carter did this on his own. What Drew told teams was, if you like him and want to meet him, trade into the top 10 and they're happy to go meet but hes not flying his guy out across the country to meet with teams picking in the 20s who have no shot of getting him. Says the players are humans and to be flown back and forth across the country with every team rehashing aspects of their life's its exhausting Same applies to Young. Those talks happen. If not from Houston then from us because if they didn't- why else would he not keep visiting teams like the Colts at 4. And if we gave him an assurance then the Texans probably did too.

I mean these type of conversations happen all the time. "If you're there you're our guy" It's why Jalen Carter won't talk to teams outside the top 10. If we take Bryce Young at 1 it doesn't matter what the Texans want to say. Young wasn't there. You think the Chargers and Dolphins didnt tell Burrow "Hey if you get to 5/6 you aren't falling any further" when Burrow went 1 and they took Tua and Herbert? The only time that would bite them in the ass would be if somehow we took neither Bryce nor CJ and the Texans had been hyping one up only to take the other. But even then "We never thought we'd have a chance at him blah blah blah" With all due respect just think you're over thinking and over analyzing this a bit.

Counterpoint. Texans say "We love you Bryce but we know Carolina does to. If you are there at 2 you're our guy and we will be sprinting to the podium tripping over ourselves with excitement. If you aren't because Carolina takes you we reconvene and go with what's best for our team and the future" If Houston moved out of pick 2 tomorrow I'd bet you anything Bryce would still meet with the team that moves to 2. As would CJ. And that's because ultimately this is a confirmation based on what he's heard his floor is 2 and he's met with both those teams.

I'm probably 70/30 he's our pick at this point but he's met with the Texans as well. This seems more like confirmation he isn't falling past 2 more than an indication he us assuredly going 1. 10 more days till we know for sure.

This.... I mean wtf league. What a terrible message to send lol

Andrew Vorhees in the 3rd on essentially a redshirt year would be my preference for the position and focus on TE/WR/Edge at 39. Regardless I'll trust the staff - they've done a better job than most of us could have imagined setting us up for BBPA.

Until they have a QB on the roster.... theres someone else to spend it on. poo roll it over into next season when there is a much MUCH better market of available WRs

1 year 18 mill LMFAOOOOOOOOOO Even if it's "up to" 18 mill there's no way that base is less than 10 which is about 1.5x what he should be getting based on his injury history and age.

"Insider" lol. Jordan Schulz is a clown. It will be Bryce Young, until it will be CJ Stroud, until it will be Anthony Richardson. It's all conjecture and not one person knows definitivly one way or another and until that last weekend in April I imagine nobody will. I will be happy with either of Young or Stroud. If we can trade down to 2 and get extra picks plus one of the two I'll be ecstatic.

I know im not as old as you but man those two were pretty much staples of my Middle and High School years where I would turn it on and watch while doing my homework after football practice. Still a bit surreal.

My first thought. I havent watches ESPN outside of live sporting events in probably 5 years and this was the first I've seen him since then. My God he looks unrecognizable. Absolutely heartbreaking.

Fug hosting the draft. I want public confirmation we were hosed in 2015.

I'd add the Bears and Raiders to that second tier too. That's 12 without a doubt teams baring a catastrophic injury we should finish better than. Then I'd put us in a tier with the Saints, Lions, Dolphins, Chargers, Steelers, Browns, Jags, Pats, Cowboys, Giants, Commanders, Seahawks that could all finish with 3-4 games of .500 either direction. If Young/Stroud are as advertised and we stay healthy I think 24 or higher is very likely. Combine that with a second that was 3 picks away from a 3rd and another 2nd two years out and it means they valued DJ Moore worth as roughly a 1,2 and a 3. Love DJ but thats more than Aj Brown, Tyreke Hill and Devante Adams and he is not near that caliber of a player.

I didnt say it was a good list, just that it was what Hopkins had relayed. I'd argue in terms of opportunity, scheme, QB, ability to pay him and chance of winning.... we may be the most logical/appealing option. We also may not be in on an alpha number 1 because we want to avoid the issues Cam and Smitty ran into with his development trying to feed a guy targets. That's pure speculation from me though.

According to Pacman Jones' source(s) on the Pat McAfee show today its down to 5 teams: Atlanta Pats Bills Ravens Raiders For those not in on the joke. The source(s) is Deandre Hopkins.

Hard time picturing the Patriots actually paying a player in their 30s top 5 positional money too. A player not named Tom Brady at least.

I see the same but I just cant see it. Hopkins and his disdain for Bill O'Brien is the main reason he was shipped out of Houston in the first place. Now the Pats new OC? Bill O'Brien. Time heals all wounds but that was a MESSY divorce. Can't imagine that deal gets made without both sides clearing the air well before time.

T's and P's your way sir

Posted this in the Thielen thread but for those that missed the interview: Came here for a chance to win, believes we are building towards winning a super bowl and he wants to be a part of building that offense. Expects immediate success. Looking forward to being a teacher for the other guys. Reiterated SEVERAL times the goal is to win a Super Bowl and he expects to contend here. He is healthy and feels great. Finished the year healthy, was able to hit the ground running on off season workouts. (I did not know this but he owns his own protein bar, a couple gym franchises) Claims to be in best shape. He and his family comes out tomorrow to officially sign and get the lay of the land. We have a golf simulator 10 feet from the locker room, said that was awesome to see and something that did actually encourage him to sign. Said if they wanted to recruit him the two things we could have done to "roll out the red carpet" would be a golf sim in the locker room and a cold brew waiting when he walked in the door. We were 1/2 lol. Team did NOT say who we are drafting although he asked and pushed hard but they would not budge. There were additional teams pushing to sign him, two that were mentioned by name were Dallas and Denver. A hang up for some of those teams were his age and would only offer a 1 year deal. Originally did NOT plan on visiting. Only reason he even agreed to come out was the large amount of respect he has for Frank Reich. Said he has long admired him and his offense. Went on to praise his vision for building an offense, a staff etc. Said there are a COUPLE other WRs we are attempting to sign and he has gone full into recruiter mode. Gave props to our signings so far. Praised the signing of Andy Dalton and his existing relationship with him and said Andy being here "a huge part of the decision" to sign as well as praising Sanders and Hurst signing. All in all he seems like a great dude. I'm excited he is part of the team.

For those that missed the interview: Came here for a chance to win, believes we are building towards winning a super bowl and he wants to be a part of building that offense. Expects immediate success. Looking forward to being a teacher for the other guys. Reiterated SEVERAL times the goal is to win a Super Bowl and he expects to contend here. He is healthy and feels great. Finished the year healthy, was able to hit the ground running on off season workouts. (I did not know this but he owns his own protein bar, a couple gym franchises) Claims to be in best shape. He and his family comes out tomorrow to officially sign and get the lay of the land. We have a golf simulator 10 feet from the locker room, said that was awesome to see and something that did actually encourage him to sign. Said if they wanted to recruit him the two things we could have done to "roll out the red carpet" would be a golf sim in the locker room and a cold brew waiting when he walked in the door. We were 1/2 lol. Team did NOT say who we are drafting although he asked and pushed hard but they would not budge. There were additional teams pushing to sign him, two that were mentioned by name were Dallas and Denver. A hang up for some of those teams were his age and would only offer a 1 year deal. Originally did NOT plan on visiting. Only reason he even agreed to come out was the large amount of respect he has for Frank Reich. Said he has long admired him and his offense. Went on to praise his vision for building an offense, a staff etc. Said there are a COUPLE other WRs we are attempting to sign and he has gone full into recruiter mode. Gave props to our signings so far. Praised the signing of Andy Dalton and his existing relationship with him and said Andy being here "a huge part of the decision" to sign as well as praising Sanders and Hurst signing. All in all he seems like a great dude. I'm excited he is part of the team.

Bit about Reich speaks volumes about this staff and just further cements he was the right choice for the job.

Thielen coming on to the Pat McAfee show right now

Im sure you've already found it but in case someone else comes reading and it's in the thread: 2023 5th 2024 6th

Lets goooo!!! Be a big step to setting us up for BPA after we get our QB at 1.01