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Most physically gifted, no doubt. Most talented, why would that be? Stroud is the most natural thrower. Young is processing like a vet. It feels like everyone says most talented when they mean most physically gifted.

My concern is Young gravitating towards running around looking for the big play too much, you win in the nfl by taking what’s there and the occasional big play. I appreciate your perspective.

I’ve only seen a few games, but my feeling is that Young likes to run around and therefore leaves the pocket too early on many occasions, while Stroud hangs in there. What have you seen?

If you read beyond the headline it says durability is a concern, not height, so size is still a concern.

Here are some additional comments from John: It is a real thing, like it or not. Will it make or break (pun intended) the decision? Not sure, but it is a factor to include.

That’s fair. I think he is that guy and that’s why he’s my preferred QB.

If we take away some of what we know about him I’m assuming we would have a different opinion.

My opinion is that if you believe in your system and want a QB to mostly work within that system, Stroud is your guy. If you prioritize someone excelling and extending plays outside of the system you pick Young. Both players are very good at both, but Stroud has an edge within the system. Again, just my opinion.

I’ve seen that as well, and it makes me feel really good about this.

I’m sure Reich will listen to input from the rest of the team. He hired people he respects for a reason. If he’s close between Stroud and Young, someone else might be able to add something he didn’t think of, and that might sway his opinion. At least that is how a good leader should do it, and I think he is one.

I agree, this is a very good approach.

Or now maybe they are at the same level, or maybe he is still behind Stroud but the gap is closer, or he was way ahead and is now miles ahead, or…

That’s what I took away as well. They won’t even work out during their visits, it is all about the other important aspects you might not see as easily from only game tape.

I haven’t seen many Bama games, but this is my concern. He’s awesome at out of structure plays, but does he actually do so many of them because he isn’t taking what’s already there? That’s my impression from the limited games I’ve seen. And that’s one more reason why I’m in the Stroud camp.

Young didn’t have the traditional Alabama supporting cast this year, on the other hand the SEC defenses were far from great this year. Young is awesome to watch, but will he be able run around in the NFL? I’m not sure to be honest. Everyone is bigger and faster in the NFL. I hope he can, a fun player to watch. I believe the Stroud we saw in the Georgia game is the real Stroud, so he’s still my guy. But I absolutely see the appeal of Young.

This is such a weird take. Just because someone prefers Stroud and think Young has a high risk of getting injured, he or she is not allowed to cheer for Young if we pick him and he’s successful? Good grief, some of the Young supporters…

I feel Colts are a bit odd in general. Not sure what Ballard is up to.

Yes that is really odd, unless they know something. On the other hand, they might just bring him in for a private workout instead. But it is odd.

I’ve asked the same question. How do we know that Stroud isn’t close to Young when it comes to processing? It seems to be an assumption based on nothing.

I’m for Stroud. I think he’s the better passer and I think the Stroud we saw against Georgia is the real Stroud. So he has plenty of upside while Young is closer to being maxed out. Young is also great, but I would be slightly disappointed.

Sounds like the FA WRs are struggling with their market value. Panthers should stand firm and not overpay.

I remember you were all in on Stroud waaaay back. I don’t follow college ball as closely so it has taken me a while to catch up, but I’m all in on Stroud as well.

Young’s actual playing weight is closer to 180 if I understand correctly. Wilson played at 205, so it is a huge difference. Maybe Young can play at 205, but if so, why didn’t he?

That was kind of my point, we know what Young do/can do, we don’t know if Stroud is very similar or not. E.g. we know that Levis struggles.