Mr. Scot

Pretty much where I'm at. I question whether he gets there, but stranger things have happened.

Yeah, he did. In a different context, George S Patton was a colossal a--shole (my WWII veteran uncle hated his guts) but it can't be argued that he helped us win the war. So is he all hero, all scoundrel, or is it...complicated? The whole dichotomy of instating that players be lumped into categories of "all good" or "all bad" just isn't viable in a real world discussion any more than we can put any human being in one of those two camps. Life is complicated. So is football.

Trends for QBs with a tendency to be streaky can be hard to follow. (we get a lot of those types here)

He's a double edged sword. Some players are. Smitty could be one of those too. Delhomme definitely was. Yeah, it makes being a fan a rollercoaster ride but we all oughtta be used to that by now.

Funny you mention Grossman because his name regularly surfaces in my head as a comparison to Bryce. Different strengths and weakness, but similar overall quality.

You know, believe it or not, it is actually possible that professional football people might truly believe that Bryce is genuinely good (it happens to me too). And to be clear, my "hurdles" are pretty much just facts of life anymore, but hey... (I am getting more opportunity to enjoy the board these days)

Ya know, it's not technically "googling" if I refer to a spreadsheet I created myself

I ain't the former (I wish ) Not gonna claim I'm the latter. That's for others to judge. (not the type to toot my own horn) Appreciate the kudos, though. Many thanks

Mike Remmers deserved credit for helping us get to the Super Bowl. Don't really care whether people were willing to give it to him or not. He helped us win games too. Go back to the 96 season. Kevin Greene was a big part of our season up to and including our playoff run. But what happened in the championship game? Sherman Lewis looked at the tape of our games up to then and formulated a strategy to run specifically at Greene. And it worked. They ran all over us. Does that erase how much Greene helped us win that year? Nope, sure doesn't. There are always gonna be some players who are better than others, sometimes markedly so. But with the NFL landscape having as many teams as it does and as many players on rosters right now, and even those players being subject to a salary cap, it just isn't possible to build the kind of roster you could create in decades past. That's just a reality of the modern game. Every team is forced to build up some units at the expense of others. We're no different. And the bottom line right now is that as much as you, me, or anyone else wants us to put a priority on finding another quarterback, the team might not see that as a need.

Depending on stats in a team sport is a massive gamble. QBx has a far better completion percentage than QBy. Is he better, or are his receivers better? QBa has fewer passing yards than QBb, but one plays for a team with a bell cow runningback while the other plays for a team that runs a high percentage passing attack. RBq has far fewer rushing yards than RBz, but he also doesn't have anything close to as good a set of blockers opening holes for him. Those are only a few examples. You could easily find dozens more. Baseball is a sport that lends much better to individual stats as a measuring stick. Football is a hundred times more complex; hence why stats can be misleading.

We're talking about contribution to a particular game. There's more to that than stats. Take for example a guy with superior stats vs a guy with lower stats playing his way through an injury or a hardship. In that scenario, I'm gonna vote for the latter guy ten times out of ten.

There's an argument to be made...

Forgot he'd be subject to waivers at this time of year. Given how waivers work, that ploy could have gone really badly for him.

I'm not sure you know what kibitzing means. Regardless, the difference between Bryce and Legette is that one lacks the tools while the other lacks the mindset. If Legette fixes his head, we can talk.

My basic criteria: Bryce overachieves... Legette underachieves... From that standpoint, it's an easy decision.

Lizzy Canales or Ashleigh Morgan, I guess...

Not sure I do either. Not sure it'd look any less silly even if I did.

Left guard is, per numerous football guys, the easiest position to play on the line. If all you want is a backup left guard, okay. If you want a Geoff Hangartner style utility guy, well...

To be clear, my standards for a backup aren't gonna be the same for a starter, especially against a tough opponent. And I'd say my most recent impression is this: Bryce had a decent amount of time to throw on a lot of plays last game. Run push? Definitely subpar, but Bryce didn't end up taking the sh-tload of abuse I was expecting him to take.

Yeah...I think that's overstated. My take was that he'd be better at guard but our new OL coaches are making a believer of me. He's getting uglier

You defending Legette or just kibitzing?

Fair point. He did post an explanation of what he says happened but I forget what he said.

This is where we get into the distinction of "better player" vs "more important position". Bryce doesn't frustrate me as much as he just plain mystifies me. I sometimes feel like I have no idea what I'm seeing. I do however think it's fair to label him as "overachieving" in the context of our season. Legette? He frustrates me because I know what he ought to be capable of, but then I see what he actually does.

I think we're at the part of the season where the proverbial "rookie wall" may be affecting him a little. Don't care though. I'm a hundred percent glad he plays for us.

Thoroughly... Jerome Bettis once took part in a game where he had five carries for negative one yard. Did those stats define his importance in that game? I'm always gonna look at the role somebody plays as infinitely more important than their stats.