Khyber53

Hadn't thought about special teams impact. The kid could be a natural up the center punk and kick blocker with that speed and length.

My thought exactly.

I'm not sure even Cam can teach someone to be Cam.

I really, really believe character matters, especially when in a leadership role. Character, though, iss something developed over a lifetime, particularly one with trials and tribulations. That growth in his game by senior year points to a lot of growth. Hopefully he's still growing and can make the most of it here. He's our guy now and so he deserves our full support.

Okay, he's bigger than he looks. Great! Let's go!

Great hype vid, but what stands out is how small he is compared to a lot of QBs. That doesn't mean he can't play (Drew Brees seemed to do okay), but it answers my question from night one, "Why did we choose the shortest of the top OTs?" I think the kid has moxy, something we've had in short supply over the last couple of years.

Huh?

Didn't even consider us going this way, but I'm intrigued. Really intrigued. He has some traits that could really help us. That trigger-quick release will be an improvement if he can read pro defenses. His penchant for running increases our attack potentials greatly. He's got a chip on his shoulder with something to prove. That's not always a bad thing. And, apparently, he isn't a big fan of mouthy rich kids who won't work for it. That could pay dividends in getting a team to work harder. This should be interesting.

I guess we did end up with something here. I didn't have Corral in my crystal ball at all, though.

Please, no.

We're going to be enjoying all the yellow flags Penning will draw. Olave, well, we'll see. We could be grabbing a lot of Olave'targetted INTs as well if they don't change their QB plans.

Yeah, Fit is the new kid at the bargaining table and it shows. The Jets suckered us and we just kept talkin about how well we'd made out.

Unless he's been yanno, meh. Brown has been, yanno, meh. We should have taken it and fired another shot at the board.

So does the sucker at every poker table. It's better to be wise than active for the sake of movement.

So I've been told. Icky wasn't making it past pick #3 also. Things happen.

And I think he also over trains his body. Those muscles may be more than his tendons can cope with.

Zappe in the fifth. We're going LB in the fourth. Chad Muma or Jojo Doman.

We've got nothing of real value to trade that we don't need. And we can't trade away our future draft picks and mortgage our future (especially in light of how reluctant top end vets are to come here at the moment). We're staying put and taking what we can get when day 3 comes around.

/takes a bow.

I'd love it to be Ekonwu, but I think he's going to be the first off the board.

Okay, so let's put it into stone: Who do you think we're taking? Are we trading and if so, who with and who do we then pick? Lastly, tell us who you'd pick. I think we get Evan Neal after the early hits go for Edge rushers. Who I'd pick: I'd want to trade back with Pittsburgh (I think they really want Malik Willis) and pick up Tyler Linderbaum and a second rounder +.

The NFL Network, hands down.

I don't want this pick, but I think that's where we are going to go. I'd rather see an OT (if available) or trade back and take Linderbaum. But you look at the number of Temple and Baylor guys that Rhule has brought here and see the connections with Pickett, and it just seems like this is a done deal. Will they trade back in hopes of getting him or will they pull the trigger at #6?

Now, do we judge the quality of our pickers by their intent or the results of what they did? The Gilmore trade lost us a pick and got us nothing in return. He did fairly well in some games that we didn't win and wouldn't have without him either. That's a wash. CJ Henderson was invisible, but not in the useful superpowers kind of way. Marshall was really nothing special and didn't see the field much or was just out there being the 11t dude. BC sat on the bench for most of the year and played meh when he saw the field (although meh is an improvement over what we had been doing). Darnold was either really bad or poorly supported, probably both. And that cost us picks. We drafted a long snapper who couldn't win the job over a retired JJ Jansen and ended up being put on phantom IR before the season started. Jaycee Horn looked better than the other DBs we fielded, until he got hurt. Like I've said before, he was the tallest dandelion on a field ready to be mowed. The injury gives this one an incomplete grade at best. Tremble, Nixon, Hubbard, Hoskins all saw some playing time. They looked good, in comparison to their counterparts on the Panthers at times. Cs and Bs, but there's some hope that with good coaching maybe they will play out. Otherwise, they are just roster fillers, maybe role players. Deonte Brown didn't have the conditioning to be an offensive guard. Shi Smith went from preseason IR to late season bench sitter. Underwhelming on the field in limited playing time. Keith Taylor, well, I'm hoping he catches on and develops. He had 3 passes defended on the season, but gave up a 70% completion rate when targeted. If we can get him some NFL-level coaching he might be okay. Yeah, in the end, that was a lousy effort at team building by Fitterer and Rhule. And this year, they're going into the draft with even fewer resources. I'm hoping there's a mandate from Tepper that they cannot trade away next year's draft picks for ones this year. They cannot be allowed to hamstring the next HC and the franchise because of their poor decision making.

In on every deal meant "was a sucker time and time again" last year. I don't get the feeling they've gotten better.