kungfoodude

All defensive draft, CB at 8, etc. BPA would have been Slater. Remember their eval on him was that he was just a guard

BuT nO qB cAn PlAy BeHiNd A bAd OlInE!!!

We could use a guy like Davis but passing up on elite OT/IOL for him would be upsetting. Lots of problems to fix but little draft capital to do so.

Yes we would have drafted Sewell. The Slater pass is a prime example of the poor evaluation. Then Rhule doubled down afterwards. Hence my point. We suck at evaluating players AND we suck at positional value.

I am not as high on the draft as others were. We passed good, impact starters for guys that seem to be rotational with all the trading down. It's hard to say with the level of roster mismanagement during the season, however. I don't think our top 3 guys are going to make a big impact outside of Horn, which is a problem. I think ultimately we got too cute with all the trading down and trying to recoup the picks from a bad trade. Then we further gut this draft with "win now" moves.

Basically this. Finished product versus a guy that MIGHT be as good as Baker.

The hope fades because there isn't football logic being displayed by the Panthers. It isn't the fans fault. There is plenty of discussion about who we can draft and why. Like.....a lot.

The whole staff just treated him like a rookie and talked about him like he was a rookie. It was the most insane thing I have ever seen. Even worse, so many of our fans bought that line of BS. "Oh he's only * years old! He's basically a rookie!" Uh.....watch tape. He sucked and still does. This isn't new. Yet all these people didn't do that.

I think Wilson ends up staying put and Rodgers stays put or retires. The only possible scenario for Rodgers might be San Fran but then why did you trade the farm for Lance? Carr may stay put too. If they get some smarter people in that building, I think they will see Carr isn't the problem.

Well, your first problem is "social media feeds." Just turn those off. Don't let the algorithms use you. Use the algorithms.

Until people started mentioning them, I didn't either. I don't follow any celebrities personal lives intentionally. I just don't care.

I am aware how the NFL draft functions. Just don't be surprised to see us ignore obvious needs and better players because our evaluation ability is subpar.

Yeah, I am not blaming him for it. But it might not have been the best learning environment for evaluating those kind of players. Keep in mind his football background is limited so he's more likely to be a product of that. I know people are jumping on Rhule, who does deserve the bulk of the blame as the final say, but I didn't think Fitt's first season was particularly exceptional.

Don't pay attention to athletes personal lives. It makes sports what they are, not a 24/7 reality TV show.

FTFY

I believe they will trade that pick if they can. Either to get a player or more picks. Basically, they will find a way to fug this up. Also, I honestly don't think this staff would be that interested in Jimmy G. Just a hunch but he doesn't seem to fit the mold of what they want. Jimmy G is what "good Darnold" basically is.

Under Rhule, we have not drafted based on BPA, we drafted based on need, as determined by Rhule. He has basically said as much. We don't do BPA.

I am not very convinced that Fitt has much of an eye for OL talent either. His time with Seattle didn't much indicate it and his performance in the last draft(although MOSTLY Rhule's fault as the final say) and free agency doesn't inspire confidence in their abilities to evaluate those guys at all. Mariota would be able to battle with Darnold but what is that saying, really? Shell of Cam was able to battle with Sam, but in the end Rhule simply played "his" guy. That is likely what would happen if we end up with Mariota. If we go out and sign him, he'll be starting because they are convinced he is the guy and the performances won't matter in camp(see Grier, Will).

Once the Bucs are out, I don't dislike any of the remaining teams. I can look forward to a Super Bowl without any insufferable teams.

Mariota doesn't bring anything to us. We had our bridge QB at the time(Teddy) and we all got mad(fans and coaches alike) and blew that up. After extending PJ Walker and trading for/extending Darnold, my gut tells me whatever we do at QB will likely be ultimately worse. That just seems to be the Matt Rhule way. I also expect that our OL will get worse in 2022.

I believe he didn't watch us play in 2021 or doesn't know much about us. OR he is using a genius level of perception to know Matt Rhule will do the worst thing possible.

He isn't an NFL level athlete. The type of running he was doing at UNC would shorten his career A LOT. He's probably average to above average at the NFL level in terms of athleticism. But remember that position now includes more and more elite athletes every season. Willis possibly being one.

You realize Matt Rhule is our GM too, right? He has final say on all roster decisions. Did you see any of the Panthers draft videos? Did that look like a guy that was just listening to what he was being told or was telling people what he wanted? Matt Rhule is completely responsible for this roster. He wouldn't take this job without total control of the roster and we gave him that. For that, he bears all responsibility for the sad shape it is in.

Hopefully Rams, obviously. The other game is tough. I think the Bills take that.