kungfoodude

If we extend him for being mediocre, the war drums will be beating for Rhule and his staff to be gone. I see only two logical options; Darnold is the guy and the search is over, Darnold is not the guy and we jettison him.

I have to assume it is true. Ultimately we may never know what percentage of blame went to Hurney versus Rhule and the staff. In the end....it doesn't matter much. Teddy flamed out and he is gone.

If he turns into a viable pass catcher, even better.

I am curious to see if that was the offense or Sam just leans backyard football when it all breaks down(which most gunslingers do) anyway. The one thing we can say about Teddy, is that he rarely ever went off script. I think he'll see plenty of pressure in 2021, so we will get a good side by side of what his tendencies are in this offense versus Gase's.

Odd since you post in a perpetual rage at everything. You really are a marvel of complete lack of self awareness. Or is this some ironic troll? If so, bravo.

This is part of a greater problem with general sports fans. Just because we disagree with something(article, analysis, statistic, etc) doesn't make it invalid. We get way too much confirmation bias in here from the posters. It's natural for everyone to have that to an extent but some people are leaning into that a bit much. Especially when you see such an overreaction to information the person doesn't like or agree with.

The question is, will he get that time here with our current OL? I am not sure our OL is any better than the Jets but our scheme SHOULD help him avoid pressure. It did with Teddy.

I don't think he is even capable of playing that conservative style of football anyway. He has always been a gunslinger. If we or he tried to change that, he'd probably be out of the league in a season. We don't need to reinvent the wheel, we just need him to make progress as far as making progressions, making reads and not generally going full Favre.

I didn't really think he needed to explain that but I guess I was wrong. He is talking about first three years in the NFL. That info takes 5 seconds to reference on PFR.

Yeah, I actually watched the games. It helps a lot. It is also a pretty low bar to hit for us.

You realize he said "first three seasons" in his post, right? Read it again.

No, on the field. Other was fine at times but Okung was a better LT as a Panther. But, hard to make an impact when you play less than half the year. In fairness, we still won that trade. Okung's contract was expiring and Turner accomplished literally nothing for San Diego.

I don't think Tremble will factor much into the passing game. He wasn't really that guy in college, so I don't see that happening at the NFL. Well, at least not initially perhaps in a couple of years. I think Arnold is the guy as our pass threat. Tremble is a great blocker, though. I think we might quickly forget the loss of Armah. I didn't like the position we drafted him in but I think he is definitely a day one contributor.

That is just a troll account. That idiot doesn't even post about football. He just gets his panties in a bunch because his feelings get hurt and then lashes out like a toddler that needs a nap. At least Chuck is sometimes entertaining. He's the low rent version of Chuck.

Okung was the best LT we have had since Gross. He just didn't play enough to matter. And, you are just getting upset because people don't agree with your world view. Calm down. This is a discussion board. Prior to you showing up about 2 weeks ago, we discussed things that people disagreed on. It happens.

Agreed. I don't think we are going to return to seeing CMC targeted 130+ times in the passing game for a season. He is a PART of the offense, not the entire offense. I would be pretty disappointed if Darnold isn't testing defenses deep at a substantially higher rate than Teddy did.

Uh...no, I literally said the same thing. You just liked the way I said it better because it had a little hope sprinkled in. Do I believe we are second to last? Very possibly. I would say as we sit here today, easily bottom 10 with a strong case for bottom 5. The thing is, there isn't a great case to be made based on history for this group to be better than last year. Especially without Okung. The free agent signings/acquisitions are not better on paper than what we acquired last year. Frankly, those largely didn't work out. The draft picks we acquired are from a range in the draft where they are statistically less likely to very unlikely to be impact players for us as starters. Does that mean any of them couldn't defy those odds and be good or even great? Of course not. It is not something I would bet any substantial money on because we are counting largely on outliers being successful. That isn't how I like my odds.

Oh you should look at that dolts history recently. I think he might have been the one that was saying crazy, drunk poo last night. I can't keep them all straight. I just assume it is one group of alts since they parrot the same nonsense in every thread.

I did literally say what he said, FWIW. Any preseason rankings are wildly inaccurate guesses....that's what preseason ratings are. Usually people only lose their minds about it when they just don't want to hear it. Ranking us last is not at all unreasonable. By all their metrics ranking the players they have rated, we probably are last. I would ABSOLUTELY place us firmly in the bottom 10 units in the NFL at this juncture, albeit maybe not last. How could you possibly rate us highly given the massive questions along the line? No reasonable person should assume the signings we made and draft picks we have would make us a good offensive line. They have to go out and PROVE that to be wrong. I thought everyone was relatively on the same page with that opinion, TBH. Our QB and OL situation are completely up in the air. Those two groups will likely be the biggest factors in our success or failure this coming season.

Not sure if you have surfed this place recently but the sunshine squad is throwing hissy fits at just about any inkling of criticism or thought process that doesn't include everyone on the roster as an All Pro. You know, standard extremist thought in the modern age? One of these fuging idiots last night kept repeating some poo like "never give up, fight the good fight" or some such drivel. Remember when you could just debate competing points and not have people lose their minds?

IMO, yes. I didn't see many guys outside Horn that I would consider starting quality but I see a lot of guys that will bolster the depth. That is one underappreciated issue we had last season. Make no mistake, that was likely the least talented roster to ever play for the Panthers. A lot of that was the depth. Once you got past our starters(some of which were of dubio7s quality anyway), the absolute bottom fell out. I think that improved substantially this offseason.

I will say that although the quality of our starters may not be very good as a unit, I do think we won't have the same level of drop off as in 2020 when the injuries start piling up.

I think we are a safe bet to rate very lowly before the season. We made some ho-hum signings in free agency and then we added predominately lower rated and lower drafted prospects. We just have to see if we can get something out of this hodgepodge of underachieving and underrated guys. I definitely don't have any butthurt about us being ranked very low. The majority of the line is in the "prove it" category. Completely understandable. We just don't want that to be the case after Game 17.

I think they just generally liked Horn more as a prospect than Fields.