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As Mr.. Scot pointed out we brought in three kickers this offseason to try out, so I don't think he was being protected that well. The team talked at some point this offseason about bringing in a sports psychologist to work with him. That was what clearly didn't work. I was done with him early on but I can't see why anyone inside or outside the team isn't over Slye at this point. As I stated earlier, kickers will be cut and be available, if we roll with Slye this season all his shanks will be 100% Matt Rhule's fault.

I will point out that his career high school long was 46 and his career college long was 50. He actually has a long history of not being able to make those 50+ yard kicks, despite all his leg. Similarly, he was a career 72.4% FG kicker in four years at VT. He is, quite literally, the kind of kicker that goes undrafted, gets a few tryouts and then never plays a single NFL game that we see every single offseason. For some reason we opted to keep him. I'll make this easy prediction, he won't last in the NFL long after we jettison him. He is the kicking version of Brenton Bersin.

He's had that "case" his entire college and NFL career. I don't think it's a temporary ailment, he's always been that way.

Correct. We will see if we missed out on an opportunity to improve. I think Gantt's article was telling in that the staff thinks he is better than the fans and media.....and statistics. But, Rhule also pointed that position out as one needing work, so perhaps they are learning. That is my one big hope with the Rhule era, they do seem to be decisive when they realize they have made mistakes and quickly attempt to correct them.

Or Burns. No reason to let arguably our franchises most valuable player get dinged up prior to week 1.

Those aren't cracks in the dam. Just poor decisions. Taking a long snapper in the draft is a pretty poor decision given the depth issues elsewhere and having one of the most reliable long snappers in the NFL already on your team. It's a 6th round pick, so the impact is pretty minimal but it was 100% a stupid decision. Especially since by all reports Jansen has clearly got the job locked down.

The kicker we brought in, Matt Ammendola, is now the starting Jets kicker, FWIW. Currently 3/3 in FG's and XP's in the preseason. Long of 54.

We did. He got cut early.

If that happens this season, zero missed kicks will be Joey Slye's fault. 100% of the missed kicks will be Matt Rhule's fault.

We should be bringing in every single kicker that gets cut.

But at least he might have made the active roster. Edit: We'd have a starter versus a guy that won't make the active roster. Currently Smith has played more preseason reps than injury prone signings Cameron Erving and Denzel Perryman combined.

Lance will likely see mostly the bench this season. I think the 49ers have a longer term view of him. If the Bears were smart they would do the same with Fields. Both of those guys have veteran QB's already of them that give them the luxury of sitting. Lawrence and Wilson are fuged. It just is what it is. Better learn quick, rookies.

It was definitely a group effort. I don't think we are constructed at the moment to win many of those goal line or short yardage battles by going hat on a hat. For all our criticism last season of Brady getting cute in the red zone, I think those reps showed why we are likely doing that, because we have to. Perhaps some years from now we can construct an offensive line(and TE corps) that will win more of those than they lose.

I didn't see the ranking of the rookies, was that another article?

All jokes aside, Charlton is really a big boost to our special teams.

Considering the history of RB's and those records, hard pass. Typically they get injured the next season after those record breaking years due to the extreme usage to get them.

That's a 2 to 4 years from now final answer. I don't think it helped that he went to a team that didn't need him to play his natural position.

He doesn't have any less potential than he did when he was drafted but neither does Josh Rosen. As a buddy of mine once said to me, "Potential just means you haven't done poo yet." So, we will see if he can do some poo. We all get to suit up on Sept. 12th and hopefully watch the beginning of the continued march forward for the franchise, whether the steps be small or large.

My point being that passing on Fields doesn't mean we will never have a chance at a QB again. There are multiple avenues to obtain one that don't involve top 10 picks. Perhaps with lower chances of happening but they do happen. Our franchise future isn't over because we may have passed on a single prospect. Let's let this all play out. I am at the point where my speculation is low and my anticipation is high. Football is right around the corner and we will get all the answers we want on the field every Sunday.

I would have taken Fields or Slater too but that's in the past now. We'll have many years to talk about the big miss or how we nailed that move. My point being that even if we don't have a high draft pick in the future to spend on a QB, it is still POSSIBLE to obtain one and even a very good one. If we build a great team here, we could potentially attract a top talent.

Can't be him. No one around him is groveling at his feet. No self respecting Panthers fan wouldn't prostrate themselves before him.

The mental gymnastics are rampant here these days. Robby Anderson not wanting to be here, Super Bowls being won and lost by our lack of playing Sam Darnold in the preseason, this year fielding a top 10 defense, the 2021 draft picks being the best in Panthers history, etc, etc. I get discussing and debating but it isn't all polar extremes. Darnold has been a bust, so expecting him to continue to be a bust....is pretty fuging logical. Doesn't mean we all can't hope he is the outlier. If so, great news! We have our guy and much rejoicing! But, really, is this any different than last season? I definitely remember the level of mental gymnastics that were going on about Teddy Bridgewater. poo, that lasted until about 10 games into the season.

Yeah but we had a lot of those. It was an "L" we were supposed to take and we did. In a painful fashion.