kungfoodude

Nah, I wouldn't take Rattler or Howell ahead of either of them. Maybe Wilson but that is a stretch too. Those guys may be a little more ready to step in and play right away than Lance but neither of them have anywhere near the ceiling that Lance does and Fields to an extent.

Right now I wouldn't rate any of those 2022 QB's ahead of the top 4 QB's in this class. Maybe Rattler but I think that is a stretch too.

It just depends on what shakes out. This is also a draft that is a little top heavy on WR prospects. Perhaps they aren't as sold on Hurts as they claim(I certainly wouldn't be) and they take a QB? The offseason is already so crazy so far, it makes getting a read on most of those top ten teams super difficult.

Yes you can. There are multiple examples of this in the NFL. The problem is that Seattle has struggled building an OL for years. It isn't some new problem. This is the same struggle Cam had and he was on a very team friendly deal. The issue isn't money, the issue is that the Seahawks don't make OL a priority the same way we never do. That isn't a recipe for success.

The four QB's should be the priority but if Slater or Sewell drop, that should be the pick. Outside of that, whatever "can't miss" prospect is available. Maybe the LSU WR?

Exactly. And part of what Russell is probably bitching about(and what Cam and Teddy could bitch about) is the lack of being able to sign or draft quality offensive linemen. We may not be able to pay Moton what he is worth, because you have to make hard choices and great RT's aren't as valuable or hard to find as LT's are. We signed Matt Kalil to a monstrous contract and he was terrible. We signed a LG to a massive contract(not a position that requires a massive contract). We signed Matt Paradis to a large contract he hasn't lived up to. We traded up to acquire a guy like Little who the rest of the league took a hard pass on. So it isn't just that you need to go out and spend mega-bucks in free agency. You need to fuging be smart about building an OL. Shrewd free agent acquisitions, SMART drafting, etc. I don't see why every draft you don't take at least 1 OL or DL player. You can't afford to keep everyone around forever(ask the Saints). So if you can crush drafting, pick and choose the guys you pay. That doesn't include paying mega-bucks to low positional value players like OG, LB and RB, which we have done the past few years.

I think the issue here is largely that the the bulk of the people have no earthly idea about the salary cap, cap percentage, signing bonuses, etc, etc. If you want to compare all the elite QB's and their historic cap hits(even some legacy players) go to OTC and search their contract history. It will show you that although Wilson or Watson or Mahomes have this massive contracts, their projected and past cap hits have largely been in line with what elite NFL QB's command.

He spent 10 years of his career at between 10-15% cap utilization. He could have gotten more but he also wasn't exactly getting paid peanuts. For the bulk of his career he was the highest paid player on the Pats.

The maximum cap on Russell's contract is 17.6% of the salary cap. That is in line with most elite QB's in the league. I think the largest cap hit I can recall was Peyton Manning at 20.5%.

Okay, I was just going to point out that Trubisky is actually a free agent.

Are these trades you are suggesting or just offseason moves in general?

I am guessing he probably wanted to see if they could turn it around and then saw over the course of the year as the team fell apart. I think his ultimate decision to leave was him being resoundingly ignored when he offered the suggestions that he and some of his teammates had for the GM and coaching search. It appears he has been trying to be bought in most of the time but eventually all the BS just got to be too much. I can't say I blame him. Had it been me, I probably would have just not signed the deal and become a free agent.

My bad, you are talking about Tua. For some reason I was thinking the Cardinals and Rosen. Well.....TBD if that pans out. Admittedly, they are in a good position as a team so you can't call it a disaster.

I mean, it actually worked out pretty well for Miami in the long run. They pivoted from their mistake quickly. That's actually why some of these trades aren't a bad deal depending on what you give up. The pivot can be quick and potentially cheap.

I actually was talking to my buddy who is a Bears fan and this deal really makes a lot of sense if you are a Bears fan. On the one hand, you get a potentially elite QB. If that flames out next season, however, you cut ties with him and have no cap hit, you probably get a new GM and head coach(both on the hot seat). Biggest downside is probably a late first rounder that you jettisoned this season and might have easily been squandered by the current GM.

Texans-esque?

Well the receiving team also owes him almost no money on that contract. After next season he can be cut with basically zero cap hit.

I agree but then why not get in on the Stafford deal? That seems like a bigger no-brainer.

That would be pretty nuts.

TBD. He is an elite talent. If you whiff though.....OOF. IMO, Chicago fans should want this. You have to figure it is either a HR deal or you get to finally fire your head coach.

TBD. We have no idea what the market for RT's is going to be nor where teams value him. The cap dropping overall will hurt his market, I would suspect.

I personally believe he has decided that he won't play there any longer(TBD if this is the case, obviously). In that scenario, winning the staredown isn't the optimal solution, getting the best situation for your franchise is.

I think the bulk of the league will have a pretty big spread of their rankings. Some of them are going to be a lot more polarizing than others.

Maybe. We know Jacksonville is taking one. The Jets, Falcons and Lions could easily take a QB before us without changing anything about their QB situation at all. That is a hedged bet with an easy out. The Jets can move on from Darnold with no issue, the Falcons can move on from Matt Ryan in a year or two. The Lions can move on from Goff in a year or two. All with tradeable assets at QB.

Again, that depends on how long you wait. If Wentz, Darnold and Carr all get traded, those are teams that are now off the board due to trading away assets or having established QB positions. Let's say the rumor of Andrew Luck returning is true, that is another team off the board. If the draft happens, that is four more teams off the board that have established QB positions. So, again, that has lessened the amount of suitors to drive up the price. Not to mention you lose the ability to potentially cash in on one of the QB's in this draft class. That doesn't mean they won't still get a haul for Watson, but it could very well mean that they didn't maximize the value of that haul. I am not advocating they make a trade tomorrow but by God I'd start taking bids for him and figure it out from there.