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He chooses to believe it because he dug in so hard for Fitt when everyone was telling him Fitt was garbage and should have been gone with Rhule. Which clearly he should have been. It gives him a Fitt isn’t that bad argument. It would totally make sense to keep the old bad GM in a cherry picked role still doing GM duties. Some how we would still have great GM candiates just lining up to apply and walk into another Panther mess lol

Yep, you can’t overhaul the entire scouting department overnight. But you can gut and replace all the decision makers at the top. I agree Morgan has to go with Fitt.

it's just word play. I call it what you don't want it called. I call it how I think a new GM coming in would view things. It's already not attractive. But if Fitterer stays and keeps the bulk of his GM duties.....what does that make him in reality? Especially for all those already employed here? You then alluded to the 49ers assistant GM as the perfect comparison for the plan (which it's a bad comparison as I showed).

my offer stands, when you are ready to come to grips on how wrong you were....I'll be here....

Noted. OP was off to a good start about finding a new GM. Then folks started sh-tting it up by talking about how actually Scott Fitterer should actually just retain most of his duties as GM. Which really derails the whole new GM talk.

So....you have no argument. Gotcha. You could of just said that. It's less words. I knew Miles Sanders was a bad add and not as billed. I talked about that a lot. I knew the WR corps Scott put together wasn't good enough. I talked about that a lot. I knew the parts we put together didn't fit. I talked about that a lot. I knew Bryce was going to play small ball all year, slow WRs and opposing defense would eat it up and sit on our pass game. I talked about that a lot. I knew Scott Fitterer was a bad GM and wanted him gone a year ago. I talked about that a lot. Of course, I talked about all that before week 1 ever kicked off. Maybe I'm just a lucky guesser. Which could be true.

we could bring back Ron, Marty and Cam Newton all for 1 season....and win more games than we did this year. And that's just Cam playing straight read option with Chubba and never passing.

I mean, it is pretty useless to talk to me and present an argument that Scott Fitterer should remain employed in Carolina. I don't disagree with that. Because it's silly, really. So again, what really good GM.....would want to take a job where the really bad GM remains and is retaining a bulk of what is his job? I've yet to here the argument on that. I have heard how sweet Scott Fitterer is though.

Marty Hurney was a much better GM than Scott Fitterer. And if you only judge them 3 years into the job....Marty Hurney was on another planet. Marty actually even gave the illusion he was good early on.

I mean, you still attempting to defend Scott Fitterer in Carolina is definitely more emotional than logical. "I'm still right guys, Scott Fitterer is really good at some things!!".

that's not similar. Peters worked his way into the role of being Lynch's assistant. And is called such. He wasn't some leftover from a bad prior regime that simply got to keep duties.

average people, don't want to be internet celebrity for a week and deal with all the bad that comes with it.

kicking game being the difference maker. Patriots have more TDs.

it's the NFL in 2024 though. I think your argument would be 100% spot on years ago. Players don't get the time they used to get. Plus you have to factor in the new HC angle. I don't see how Bryce can suck again next year and get a year 3 as our starter. New HC will be done with Bryce. New HCs got no time for the prior eras guys. And no one gets the time they once did. Coaches nor players.

NFL owners don't care Tepper threw a drink at someone. Lot bigger sins than that have been going around the owners circles. They also don't care Tepper is bad at his job....and they probably love that Carolina has turned into a place where you can get great deals.

I mean, the title can be whatever you want. But if he retains all his duties but except for 1 carve out....it is what it is. How folks in house going to few that? Not sure why we want to make the new GM job any more unattractive than it already is. We should just hire a competent GM. A competent GM doesn't need a proven bad GM doing half his job. Plus, our next GM/HC are going to be tasked with building a culture here. Removing any sign of the Fitterer era Panthers.

I mean, y'all are advocating for Fitterer to be co-GM. That's what keeping all his current duties are excluding player personnel is. Good luck finding a good GM to come in here. It's basically advocating for a similar approach Tepper/Fitt thought up for our new HC....but this time for the GM spot. We got an all star front office now!

well, I still say a competent GM can come in and handle everything. We don't need to carve out part of their job and give it to Tepper's lap dog. Job is already unattractive enough. That's just one more body in house to side with Tepper and not stand against him. And Fitterer would really owe Tepper for that. so yeah, it could happen. Everyone IMO should be 100% against it.

I mean, they can fine him. But no one is going to be talking about Charlotte/Tepper much once the Bucs game hits 0:00. NFL talk is about clicks, playoff talk is all that is going to be going on. Wasting your time on Tepper after the season is over isn't where the money is for the talking heads. I think if it happened earlier this season, Tepper would have been forced to deal with it. Instead you get a week of no comment and Tepper just ignores it publicly.

why keep a problem? him being "nice" just doesn't sell the argument. maybe the new GM shouldn't have to deal w/ a leftover horrible GM that also is a David Tepper lapdog? I'm sure a qualified GM can take care of whatever folks want carved out for Fitterer to pointlessly have and keep.

only a game left, got to think that is the big factor in Tepper's lack of reaction. Tabor just has to get through a week of pressers and then no one outside of Charlotte is going to care. Heck, people in Charlotte are ready for this season nightmare to end. Tepper is likely fine with that.

yep, money is just money. Heck, money actually can make a person's flaws even worse. I'd say that is a near certain. Lot of horrible people got money. Money also is a universal inflator of one's abilities. Well, I made money doing X......so I can now do anything just as well as I did X. Tepper's biggest mistake was not treating what this was, what it was. He was diversifying and growing his wealth. He obviously couldn't resist the play toy factor of the NFL team.

Scott Fitterer has been horrific here. He doesn't need to be in the building lending his thoughts on any subject. When you have been as bad as the Fitterer era Panthers have been.....you don't keep that around and change the job title. He has been a big part of the problem.

let's at least set the stage properly. post ban - 2 wins. all of our wins. So we still have been better since the banning. post ban - Tepper threw a drink at someone. Which IMO is basically a plus too. Because more of the nation is now aware of what of a poo owner we have. And the only way we possibly see change is for the masses to hit Tepper's ego very very hard to get him to slink away into the shadows of this team.

I mean the floor is already set IMO at a quarter million. But that's still chump change and means nothing to Tepper. Fine and suspension isn't about hitting his pocketbook.....it's about hitting his ego. Which he needs.