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Is there another team president in the NFL….whose only background info is married a billionaire in 2019?

Yeah, Bennett is 25 years old. Which is older than I think 4 of the NFL playoff QBs this year. Something about his age playing amongst college kids taints it me a little bit and takes some of the shine off it….at least for me. college football just in a weird space all around IMO so who cares. Might as well deem it pro ball/ minor leagues.

This isn't true. We averaged like 80 something rushing yards under Matt Rhule. We averaged 150+ with Wilks. It wasn't the same coaching. It wasn't the same gameplans. And the one CMC game Wilks had with CMC technically brought his overall rushing numbers down slightly. We won because we ran. We lost because we didn't. And when Rhule did run, it was a poo RPO heavy scheme. Which is why Wilks has significantly more production with inferior RBs.

I mean, techincally the punter gets credit. JJ gets credit. Shi Smith. Anyone that played rep technically gets credit. Sam gets what they get. If you actually had to rank in importance of how Wilks got his wins and salvaged a disaster. He minimized the QB play. He ran the ball. He played conservative. QB play isn't why we won. We had bad/weak QB play and Wilks managed games around that fact.

I guess you are choosing to wait on that instead of addressing how he isn't average. Which was your declaration. Despite it being statistically untrue . Nothing average about 50 something completion rate in today's NFL. Corral hasn't played a NFL snap. You know, hurt developmental rookie and all. Which somehow you are trying to pretend is comparable to verified busted Sam Darnold.

Darnold had the 2nd worst completion % of his career this year. And it's a bad career. He didn't break 175 yards in half his starts. We had some of the best rushing numbers in franchise history once Matt Rhule got fired. That's why we won some games. Nothing to do with who played QB. Wilks won in spite of QB play. Which he should get some respect for. This Sam Darnold talk is about is crazy as those folks who were pimping Matt Rhule as good entering this year. Just fantasy talk. Or just bored trolling. Which I get given there isn't much else to do I guess.

But he isn't. That's the point. Nothing average about being a below 60% completion QB in the modern-day NFL....while not being a game changing running QB. and Sam isn't a 60% compeltion QB. Not this year. Not last year. Not the year before. Not over his career. Average in today's NFL is like 65%.

Corral - raw potential Sam Darnold - worst starting QB in the NFL over the last half decade. These 2 thing aren't the same.

it's flawed to take his small sample size run that over the course of a season and act like it means something. As we saw in NY and last year in Carolina. The more time he is on the field the worse it gets for him. Sam has never been an average NFL starter in the NFL. And he has enough proof of that where you can't sell cherry picked games like it could somehow happen. He is a vet. You would be signing a bad QB to backup money.

Wrong question. Matt Corral has potential to develop into something. Therefore, he has purpose on the roster. What is the purpose of signing Sam Darnold. He is what he is. A bad QB. And yeah, PJ Walker can follow Sam out the door too. We don't need to waste reps on those types.

Sam Darnold didn't even throw for 165 yards in 50% of his games. When he did, we went 1-2. The one win being over the worst pass D in the NFL. The key to winning with Sam Darnold. Is doing your best to make him invisible. Minimize his impact. Because he doesn't play QB well.

There is no argument on that. Sam Darnold is a massive bust. It's just a fact that happens to come up when someone wants to talk about him playing here in 2023. There is no reason for him.

First - Sam has been given more opportunity than other comparable busts. Saying other bad QBs exist doesn't counter that statement. Second - I credit the best rushing attack in the NFL post Rhule's firing for salvaging the season to a respectable end. Not the QB play. Third - What are you talking about? What playoff QB would we be getting? Present playoff QBs have nothing to do with what we would be looking for in a vet/mentor/coach QB add for young QBs on our roster. That's not who would fill that role. You aren't adding that guy to play. Unless your season is a disaster, and everything implodes. See a Joe Flacco in NY this season. He was hired for that role. His role is emergency QB at best in terms of playing. But he knows how to play. He knows the game. He has seen success. He is a paid coach. We need add actual talent that can turn into something. No more Teddy, Sam, Baker, recycling. They all were what they were when we added them. You aren't' fixing established guys. And they all were when we added them. Established as not good enough. Fourth - again, Sam Darnold doesn't have the resume. He needs a mentor still on how to play because he isn't good. All Sam can mentor someone on is dealing with the bad. Which is something. But he doesn't know the good. Again, the reason speaks for itself.

he finished with a solid 43 yards. only the DeAngleo Wildcat game did our starting QB produce less yards. Even Jimmy Jam mustered more at his worst.

THE Mike Shula

Can't predict it this early. I mean they could drop. Got to remember prior years where basically unquestioned best players at this time in a given season......later dropped. I mean, at this time in Fields draft year basically no one questioned him as anything but the 1b to Trevor. A close 1b. Because he just beat him and outplayed him. Bama QBs often go through the ringer. So do Ohio St QBs. So I could see them falling in perception after everyone makes money off nitpicking them for months and months.

Sam Darnold is a massive bust. That has gotten opportunity after opportunity. Beyond what other busts get. What am I supposed to give him credit for? The current season is still underway. Who will be a realistic option isn't known yet. But again, Sam's resume doesn't fit the vet/mentor/coach QB role you would want to aid your young QBs. He needs that type guy to still help him.

he doesn't have the resume for the job. nothing disingenuous about that. his resume is factual. when a team is looking for a vet mentor/coach/QB.....you don't go looking at the biggest busts of the last decade.

I don't have an issue with running the ball well. I simply credit the rush attack when it deserves it. Not give the credit the bad QB. Carolina's run game was absolutely bonkers during that stretch. And folks are pimping Sam Darnold?? lol. What Carolina needs to do is acknowledge that feat....and it is one. They traded CMC and then went crazy on the ground. Not just good rushing. Great rushing. Especially considering teams were playing it.

the purpose of that QB/role isn't to see the field or play. It's film, locker room, teaching etc. They supposed to come to save us. They are to help the staff with youth they need at the position. Sam Darnold serves no purpose. And we don't need to bring in a 2023 version of Teddy, Sam, Baker.

When you are running for 200+ yards a game and even manage to crack 300+ yards in that span....your QB play is not why you are winning games in the NFL. So yeah, "wins" in quotes. It's like crediting the league's worst defense with winning a game because an offense had to go out and score 49 points. The D doesn't win you that game. The O won the game. Our rushing attack won those games.

The Panthers averaged an absurd 222 rushing yards per game in Sam Darnold's "wins" this year. We need a vet on the roster. Yeah. Let's go get one that actually has had success in the NFL and knows how to play QB and the NFL game. That's not Sam.

That revisionist history and hindsight though. Cam had tons of question marks coming into the league. More than Fields. And best case, just as many questions. Carolina gambled on him because they didn't have a QB and importantly tailored the team around him day 1. Which was the right call given where Carolina found themselves. now, that's not an argument Fields will be better. We know Cam's career/results. Little chance of that.

Fields has been available 82% of the time Horn has been available 47% of the time Fields missed 2 games this season. Started 15 out of 17. Maybe the fact the Bears are horrific on offense around him has more to do with him missing some games than the fact he runs. Why are you bringing up Fields availability when Horn is the guy we picked over him? A less impactful position that has barely seen the field in comparison to Fields. Not so hot take that some might pretend is.....2 years in, Jeff Otah was a better pick for us than Horn has been for us. Otah was dominant and was available 81% of the time. Significantly more than Horn.

pretty sure NFL defenses all over the league routinely stop Mike Evans from doing that 3 straight times without a "shutdown" corner. Horn being the right pick or not has to do with the where the rest of your org is. It's like the Jags drafting the best DB of the decade in Jalen Ramsey and it being meaningless for them. Jalen was a great player. Not the pick the Jags needed. Ramsey could shutdown anyone. But they had too many holes for it to matter. And Horn isn't Ramsey.