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if he is there and the top 4 QBs are gone, I want him.

I understand that. I see it used all the time of late. All I am saying is that it doesn't pass the eye test. I just question if that tech is really as accurate as advertised at this stage. You got a white linebacker from James Madison on his heels the entire run. And I am suppose to believe that is Lance is running faster than Lamar pulling away from NFL players? I mean it could be true. The eye test of part of that statement just doesn't jive. Maybe James Madison is full of track kids. Who knows.

Nah, the old guy played at some independent religious school, didn’t have a single signature game on his resume, and bailed routinely from clean pockets because of phantom pressure...

We don’t have lots of time to add guys outside of Fields. How about this, we add this....if you squint your eyes real hard it kinda works *it’s just a joke

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sorry. the movement already started. only takes 2 to become an official movement. Tell you what, we will let you work on Justin Fields' nickname. *derogatory and sarcastic nicknames will be reviewed for ban. I think heavier moderation was also just requested.

I agree that probably does make sense to remove it and put up one of Justin Fields. Glad we can all come together on occasion and agree.

I don't trust these speed/clocks that pop up on the TV at all that are now used to make arguments. They just don't pass the eye test. Take Lance's. You watch that run they cite and there are kids playing FCS football right on his heels that entire run. Daniel Jones? You telling me Lamar never got up to a speed faster than him this season? I just don't buy it.

if I had to bet my money, Teddy.

I mean the huddle isn't Facebook. But it clearly pulls to some degree your personal activity to aid in the ads. For example, I see all kinds of self health books on How to Deal with Always Being Right With Your Hot Football Takes.

Is Fields streaky? or did Ohio St just get comically wiped out by COVID for a little over a month this past season. My personal belief is all those suddenly nitpicking Fields are just looking at that insane COVID window and topping it off with him hurt vs Bama. 2019 he was considered by all 1b with Trevor. Talk kicking off 2020 was maybe he was better. Then COVID hit them and they didn’t have their players back really until Clemson.

I think a poor man's Cam is a perfect description. Great arm. Spotty accuracy. Only difference is Cam was the most dominant runner in NFL history and Lance isn't even in the ballpark of that.

This is one of the reasons I like Fields so much. He saw more pressure than anyone and was the most accurate QB in this draft. He has the best ball placement.

I was willing to give up more than vast majority of the board was comfortable with for Watson. I’m not risk adverse. There are limits on what I would give up for a college QB though. How many of the top 2 QBs drafted the last 8 years would have been worth what we are speculating here.....2-3 of the 16? Just playing the odds I guess.

His habit of bailing out of clean pockets likely could have different consequences vs Clemson’s NFL DL talent and front vs folks he saw. Or last years’ Ohio St. Or Bama. that’s one do the things I don’t like about him. Those are play killers. And they aren’t as noticeable when the talent up front isn’t as good IMO. And this thread really boils down to two issues merging together. It isn’t that I think Wilson isn’t good. I’d be more than happy to land him at #8. Hardly a real knock. I don’t buy he looks better than Fields. And I wouldn’t want to give up what is needed to get to #2 for Fields (and he is my favorite).

from the start this always sounded like Instagram escorts were going to be at least part of the storyline.

bolded is 100% true. this situation has set off all sorts of red flags. No matter what hiring a bunch of random people off instagram and flying them out to see you(not to mention all this during a pandemic) is dumb. Ticking time bomb for a problem. Whether they be legit massage therapists or sex workers.

Big Ben went on to a long career and a Super Bowl the year he was suspended. but for the record I am anti-Big Ben. I was anti- Hardy. I could be anti- Watson. But I still think more info needs to come out. Just too many red flags all around. The whole Instagram centric massage therapist during a global pandemic thing all via this specific attorney in combination with Watson's stellar rep and behavior means we should wait on this to play out more.

I wanted to draft Cam at #1 and was one of the first lobbying for it. I think we should draft a QB at 8. One of the top 4 if there. I don’t love Lance there but I won’t cry over it. We aren’t talking that. They are all lotto picks. I’m not a fan of giving up a bunch of great picks for one. Bust rate is way too high.

everything is it's own thing. How many people have to accuse someone of something before they should just be deemed guilty.

Well, the question to me is....is Zach Wilson worth multiple first round picks plus several additional picks to acquire. That's the question IMO.

I'm not suggesting you base an assessment off of one game. But if we are giving up a ton of draft picks for a kid....I'd like a better resume than one great year vs meh competition. Just spending the #8 pick on any of these QB would be a big enough gamble in itself. I think Field's has the highest ceiling of all the QBs. Which includes my boy Trevor. But I don't want to trade away a ton of picks for him either.

you said that was his best game. I don't think it is a silly take to say give me a game where someone legitimately wowed...when we are talking about giving up an assortment of first round draft picks and what not for them.

But we aren't just talking about being top 10 worthy. We are talking about being worth multiple first round picks plus an assortment of picks from other rounds. I think if you are going to give away all that.....there should be at least one example where you go, see that game. That's why he is worth it.