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well, you suggested if he sucked year 3 with his dude (a rookie, they generally aren't great) then he would be fired. So yeah, that's the cycle repeating. Puts Canales' QB on the new hire. You limit the new HC just like Canales was limited. I still contend the Panthers like always failed to follow through on a reasonable plan. It sure looked like David Tepper green lighted Canales moving on from Bryce Young last year. Bryce never fit the hire and was bad on top of that. Canales got the thumbs up after a mere 2 games. The entire sports world conceded it was over. Biggest question was when and how we would part with him. Then the Panthers let the miracle comeback happen and somehow we have this weird and pointless season. But Dave had his chance/opportunity that clear was Tepper approved. I think for that reason, Canales got screwed because THIS season is when he should of gotten to pick a QB (even if it was a short term vet).

why would you let that 3rd season play out like that.......let what by all accounts is a bad coach use your first round pick on a QB he wants in year 3(or Tepper).....and then immediately fire him? You then force the Canales QB on the next coach. Cycle repeats. Canales had his chance to move on from Bryce Young. It was last year when they buried him.

I nailed the cheap plays, 4 out of 5 were solid discount winners.

I think Tepper gave Canales the window to move on from BY last season after 2 games and end the BY experiment. I think Morgan for whatever reason wouldn't part w/ the QB HE drafted with Fitterer and it cameback to screw Canales. I don't see how Tepper can essentially treat Canales like a brand new start/era in year 3 at this point. Bryce got tied to him this year.

big picture went need 2 QBs though this offseason. 100% rebuilt room. We need to find a vet to start and then draft a future QB.

It’s not hard to track at all. Name any QB that has stayed on the field during that window competing with him for worst over that time span. No one exists. You don’t get the opportunity to be this bad, this long. Only examples would be guys that haven’t been out there that long. So a guy getting a year 2 this year doesn’t even qualify. Bryce already got that.

Why is our franchise a joke? well, they can give us the worst QB play in the NFL for the 3rd season…..and a huge % of the fanbase just defends it. It’s not Bryce….which is essentially Tepper. It’s his doing. So if you are David Tepper you can be HORRIBLE and people still eat it up. His investment grows and grows. No reason to be or do different. Fans will defend the comical as okay. We are starting a kid whose physical tools aren’t as good as middle school Trevor Lawrence and he plays dumb on top of that.

outside of XL not getting his feet down …. How did the WRs let him down? Or is TMac, who played great, potentially running one bad route on a play in his first NFL game enough for that claim? Despite every NFL QB facing Sunday’s with imperfect WR play, imperfect OL play, etc. excuses are just made for Bryce that aren’t recognized as just life as a QB. You can pick any QB in the NFL and find a host of plays where things didn’t go to plan around them all game

He probably goes for like 180 yards off some very very conservative throws at 60% ish completion with the RBs doing all the heavy lifting ….then Bryce defenders will declare it an example of how great Bryce can be. Bryce will have one downfield throw. An incompletion to TMac on a 50/50’ball. PFF will declare Young one of the best deep passers in the NFL week 2….because if TMac caught it Bryce would have been PERFECT!!

Correct. Bills have a great QB. We have a very bad QB. That’s the primary difference between the two on offense. You could put Josh Allen behind this OL, give him Hubbard and these weapons and you flat out get significantly better offense (and Allen already has weak coaching). Allen would have smashes the Jags. Plays were there. He has an arm and can run. we have no talent and bad coaching on defense. No one is scheming that talent up to be good but they probably could get better play out of them than Evero.

You are right, plenty of blame to go around and the sky isn’t falling. But the blame starts with Bryce. Who has been the worst QB in the NFL over the last 3 seasons. Sky fell a long time ago. People can’t except they were wrong on Bryce for whatever reason. Reality defying logic being used

Bryce had 3 turnovers. Should have had 4. Had 70 yards mid 4th quarter. Bryce was trash. PFF is a joke. They are trying to manufacture Bryce into not a bad QB for whatever reason. Gaslighting. Highlights how bogus their ratings last year were……”best deep passer” lmao off plays that never existed

That’s clickbait insanity. From the XL pick being blamed on XL, to calling Renfrows balls drops, to calling his horrific PI ball to TMac a bad play by TMac and on and on and on using this logic, you can make Jimmy Clausen great. 89 should of taken those nothing passes to the house!! Jimmah was good!

Bryce defenders would call that a DJ Moore drop. Got to catch that

Just saying, plenty of QBs got mid skill talent around them. Specifically some really good teams. I watched the Bills comeback and beat the Ravens last night and their skill talent is nothing special. They got an overly conservative HC that holds the QB back when he can paired with our former hated OC Joe Brady. And they can beat anyone in the NFL because they got a special QB.

Bryce has been the worst QB in the NFL since drafted. Anyone that could challenge that disappears from a lineup after a year

First NFL game is a MNF road game…..I’ll give McCarthy some grace this week

I’d rather watch the DeAngelo mildcat all game return. Just direct snap Hubbard

Caleb making a lot plays this drives. That weren’t because of good playcalls, OL play, or anything else. Just flat out making something out of nothing.

Ugh, Caleb got great physical tools. Great throw and great catch there down the sideline.

Same. I flat out root against him. Sadly, I think the new coach is going to be a good thing for him

I think Dom and Caldwell are part of the problem in Carolina. Why are they surviving? Why the hell did Jim Caldwell basically get to be the President of operations and help put together the current era after being involved in the Frank nightmare. lets get rid of the two 70 year old advisors. They don’t have the answers for today’s NFL

They really like that Tuten kid. Bigsby in the way of him getting touches. Apparently he is got that f you speed. Thankfully for us Etienne lost it……because old Etienne would have taken that big run to the house on us.

or your QB just puts his head down and run as a worst case scenario. Bryce went with the 0% chance play on 4th down. clearly Canales had something else to say to Bryce about that play after it happened.

Bryce should have had a pick 6 on top of all the bad that already existed. Some argue he isn’t as bad as he used to be. This is a better bad. That play….argues otherwise. Bryce isn’t a starting QB. He has answered that. It’s just a waiting game for people to accept it. it took an away from the play hold on Renfrow to wipe that stupidity…..but it shouldn’t be wiped when evaluating Bryce’s day.