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if Sanders rebounds.....he still is one of the worst receiving RBs in the NFL. Because that what he was in 2 of the last 3 seasons in Philly and ultimately why they parted with him. We aren't meshing talented with our QB. Bryce needs diverse RBs that can catch and make plays. We need what Cohen was in Chicago pre injury. We need to draft RB talent. Rounds 3 or 4 is where you build your backfield IMO. We should always be adding talent. We should quit with FA RBs.

I don't think it's unfair. I think you can do it with both the FSU guys this year. I mean, the following draft profile is on NFL.com. Is that KB? or Coleman or Walker? He’s not sudden and doesn’t have great speed, so beating press and creating breathing room against tight man coverages will depend on his ability to improve as a route-runner. might lack the athletic traits to be a well-rounded WR2. Instead, keep an eye on him as a big slot receiver who can be a red-zone specialist.

only FSU kid I want the Panthers to draft is that TE and late. IMO, that's basically what all the FSU guys are but Bell actually plays the spot unlike the 2 WRs.

The moment we drafted Bryce....slot WR, TE, and rec RB IMO were the 3 key positions for him to succeed. And we have failed him in those 3 spots. Bryce is suppose to be a PG dink and dunker IMO. So you need YAC guys at those spots.

my argument then and now would be the same. Some of that was just PR to benefit Thomas Brown. The OC who wasn't really the OC thanks to Frank. So you spin things in his favor a little to make him not look like a nothing coach to start off the year. He designed the O by taking Frank's playbook and and then adding his own pages in addition to it. Which probably happens to everyone's offense. Other coaches are probably always adding to them. Frank wouldn't of called a true Thomas Brown creation out of the gate. He didn't know the guy, he was never an OC, and wouldn't know the O. Especially as a HC playcaller where his time in thin. That never would have made sense even for Tepper. He was going to calling the O out of the gate....but the core of what he would be going to was what he already knew and believed in.

and I still think Tepper forced Reich to let Brown try playcalling when it occurred. In one of their meetings. Then Reich took it back to go down with the ship. I don't think Frank is a bad guy. But Frank always seemed like a dude who knew at the start of the season.....that was all a bad forced marriage. He looked defeated really before the defeats really piled up. Nothing fit. Everything forced together. and I don't really think Tepper would be in the wrong outside I think the weekly meetings probably started too early though. But I think that was the design from the jump. Take these random parts and manage it all. But Frank was going to need to be called out on stuff given what it was. I mean, the entire league and everyone that watched was doing it. Frank was running a bad show.

I'd tend to side with the Patriots owner just not wanting to look foolish by getting rid of the GOAT (most consider him that)....and him going on to do better for someone else than what NE is going to do. And I'd lay money Bill in Atl would out perform NE.

I mean, Canales is a first year HC with a grand total of 1 year as OC under his belt running a bottom tier O. Just doing the HC job is enough on his plate. Will he call plays? Sure. Input? Sure. I mean, we just did that identical whole dance last year with a vet HC. I mean, Bryce Young is on his 2nd OC and both his OCs were rookies that had never been OC. That's not really an excuse. It's just pointing out the Panthers are doing everything on paper you would say a team shouldn't do for someone like Bryce......but since it's our team we argue it as okay. I can say that and it not be an excuse for Bryce. I don't think Bryce has the tools to be a good NFL QB. But the Panthers IMO are not doing the right things to make him be able to reach whatever ceiling he does have IMO.

Bryce just needs an actual modern day NFL OC. Not all these dudes that have never done the job before. Which, I mean, might not really be that much of an excuse but rather the painfully obvious.

we had folks claiming Rhule/McAdoo going into 3 year was about to be something special......it is what it is. They could hire me and you and a segment of the board would start to believe we might be hidden geniuses.

people loved Thomas Brown behind a podium too. I really don't get the worst O in the NFL.....doubling down again with an OC who has never been an OC off of last season. Hope for the best. But some of this stuff just really is a head scratcher.

Ginn had that F U speed though. Which I don't think this guy really has

Hurst is also an example of why I dislike old college players coming to the NFL. Never of fan of the 25ish year olds coming into the NFL. They get this college edge given their age, strength, etc. that makes them look better than the 18 year olds. one of the many reasons I hated the DJ pick last year. Yeah, let's reach on 25 year old meh edge player because he showed some potential vs 18 year olds.

I’d still prefer the worst O in the NFL in an O league….make this a largely O centric draft. Especially given the talent in it. I mean, big picture our O investment is just Mingo and no one else around our #1 overall QB. Everyone else is a short term option or warm body most likely

3 first round picks for the #4 pick in the draft? That ain't happening.

I don't think you totally disregard it.....but it's still how fast you run a 40. And dudes spend tons of time perfecting their track starts and all that jazz. And the track kids always have an edge. I mean, is a 4.3 kid faster than a 4.4 kid on a football field? Not necessarily. That's all I mean.

I mean, we should take a RB. Singular A being the important part and not before the 4th.

Yeah, but it’s not fair expectations to draft a C and expect him to be NFL average out the gate though. Especially, if it’s not some top tier first round prospect.

It will be such a Panther thing…. to of spent all this FA money at G….and not a have an average C on the roster which leaves the middle a mess in the end. and I don’t think a 2nd round rookie is going to be an average starter year 1. Especially as defenses come out playing Bryce the way they will at the gate

well, I hope Dan Morgan doesn't think like that. Hate that mock. I actually like Bell late there but that's all the nice things I got to say about that mock. Don't like Kool-Aid or the FSU WRs and those 2nd rounders is going to be what has people liking or hating any mock.

but we do have last year to make educated assumptions off of. 33 was traded last year. For a team to go get a QB. so if it is similar to that, just draft the best WR on the board IMO.

exactly. we are #1 in spending. Cam Newton was #1. Cam Newton went to Auburn. Auburn is in Alabama. Alabama starts with the letter A. The letter A starts the word Alpha. Alpha is the first world of the Greek Alphabet. Therefore....I'm eating Greek food tonight. Numbers are never just numbers here.

I really like the 2nd round of this draft. Especially if you need offensive skill talent.

and largely, the folks under Morgan. I mean, they basically kept folks in house or in place on that side of things. Director of Player Personnel, Director of Pro Personnel, Asst. Director of Pro Personnel, Director of College Scouting.... the real hope is that Frank Reich was just THAT horrific with a QB like Bryce. Which I mean, I do think Frank's horrific scheme made everything hard. OL to QB to WR. Frank wasn't helping anyone or anything. I still hate Caldwell being around though.