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Sam Darnold didn't even throw for 165 yards in 50% of his games. When he did, we went 1-2. The one win being over the worst pass D in the NFL. The key to winning with Sam Darnold. Is doing your best to make him invisible. Minimize his impact. Because he doesn't play QB well.

There is no argument on that. Sam Darnold is a massive bust. It's just a fact that happens to come up when someone wants to talk about him playing here in 2023. There is no reason for him.

First - Sam has been given more opportunity than other comparable busts. Saying other bad QBs exist doesn't counter that statement. Second - I credit the best rushing attack in the NFL post Rhule's firing for salvaging the season to a respectable end. Not the QB play. Third - What are you talking about? What playoff QB would we be getting? Present playoff QBs have nothing to do with what we would be looking for in a vet/mentor/coach QB add for young QBs on our roster. That's not who would fill that role. You aren't adding that guy to play. Unless your season is a disaster, and everything implodes. See a Joe Flacco in NY this season. He was hired for that role. His role is emergency QB at best in terms of playing. But he knows how to play. He knows the game. He has seen success. He is a paid coach. We need add actual talent that can turn into something. No more Teddy, Sam, Baker, recycling. They all were what they were when we added them. You aren't' fixing established guys. And they all were when we added them. Established as not good enough. Fourth - again, Sam Darnold doesn't have the resume. He needs a mentor still on how to play because he isn't good. All Sam can mentor someone on is dealing with the bad. Which is something. But he doesn't know the good. Again, the reason speaks for itself.

he finished with a solid 43 yards. only the DeAngleo Wildcat game did our starting QB produce less yards. Even Jimmy Jam mustered more at his worst.

THE Mike Shula

Can't predict it this early. I mean they could drop. Got to remember prior years where basically unquestioned best players at this time in a given season......later dropped. I mean, at this time in Fields draft year basically no one questioned him as anything but the 1b to Trevor. A close 1b. Because he just beat him and outplayed him. Bama QBs often go through the ringer. So do Ohio St QBs. So I could see them falling in perception after everyone makes money off nitpicking them for months and months.

Sam Darnold is a massive bust. That has gotten opportunity after opportunity. Beyond what other busts get. What am I supposed to give him credit for? The current season is still underway. Who will be a realistic option isn't known yet. But again, Sam's resume doesn't fit the vet/mentor/coach QB role you would want to aid your young QBs. He needs that type guy to still help him.

he doesn't have the resume for the job. nothing disingenuous about that. his resume is factual. when a team is looking for a vet mentor/coach/QB.....you don't go looking at the biggest busts of the last decade.

I don't have an issue with running the ball well. I simply credit the rush attack when it deserves it. Not give the credit the bad QB. Carolina's run game was absolutely bonkers during that stretch. And folks are pimping Sam Darnold?? lol. What Carolina needs to do is acknowledge that feat....and it is one. They traded CMC and then went crazy on the ground. Not just good rushing. Great rushing. Especially considering teams were playing it.

the purpose of that QB/role isn't to see the field or play. It's film, locker room, teaching etc. They supposed to come to save us. They are to help the staff with youth they need at the position. Sam Darnold serves no purpose. And we don't need to bring in a 2023 version of Teddy, Sam, Baker.

When you are running for 200+ yards a game and even manage to crack 300+ yards in that span....your QB play is not why you are winning games in the NFL. So yeah, "wins" in quotes. It's like crediting the league's worst defense with winning a game because an offense had to go out and score 49 points. The D doesn't win you that game. The O won the game. Our rushing attack won those games.

The Panthers averaged an absurd 222 rushing yards per game in Sam Darnold's "wins" this year. We need a vet on the roster. Yeah. Let's go get one that actually has had success in the NFL and knows how to play QB and the NFL game. That's not Sam.

That revisionist history and hindsight though. Cam had tons of question marks coming into the league. More than Fields. And best case, just as many questions. Carolina gambled on him because they didn't have a QB and importantly tailored the team around him day 1. Which was the right call given where Carolina found themselves. now, that's not an argument Fields will be better. We know Cam's career/results. Little chance of that.

Fields has been available 82% of the time Horn has been available 47% of the time Fields missed 2 games this season. Started 15 out of 17. Maybe the fact the Bears are horrific on offense around him has more to do with him missing some games than the fact he runs. Why are you bringing up Fields availability when Horn is the guy we picked over him? A less impactful position that has barely seen the field in comparison to Fields. Not so hot take that some might pretend is.....2 years in, Jeff Otah was a better pick for us than Horn has been for us. Otah was dominant and was available 81% of the time. Significantly more than Horn.

pretty sure NFL defenses all over the league routinely stop Mike Evans from doing that 3 straight times without a "shutdown" corner. Horn being the right pick or not has to do with the where the rest of your org is. It's like the Jags drafting the best DB of the decade in Jalen Ramsey and it being meaningless for them. Jalen was a great player. Not the pick the Jags needed. Ramsey could shutdown anyone. But they had too many holes for it to matter. And Horn isn't Ramsey.

Nah, I don't think we would be eating Fields alive if he was in his 2nd offense in 2 years and.... started 15 games....while putting up the 2nd most rushing yards all time by a QB and accounted for 25 TDs. That would equate to the most entertaining offensive football we have seen in a near half decade from the QB spot. And we are a fanbase starved for it. and Fields would have had CMC, DJ Moore, etc here. Chicago had nada. Fields is forced into one man show football. Fields was the 2nd best QB in the draft and fell into our laps. It was a mistake. Simple as that. Defending our front office botching stuff does no good. And it was a mistake regardless of what Fields turns out to be. That's the pick you want your team to make when they find themselves in the spot we did.

Fields has played in 27 games and been available for more. Horn has been available for 16 games and played in 16 Those aren't the same. A season is 17 games. Horn has yet to suit up for a season worth of games over 2 years. and it's an old wives' tale that a QB shouldn't and can't run. He is young with horrible weapons. If you put him in a good position, he could run less. It's not a Fields problem. That's a Chicago problem. And the more time he gets the smarter he will run. But running isn't a problem. It's a positive.

He is an elite runner. Special. And as a 2nd year player, in his 2nd offense already with bad weapons.....Fields had more passing TDs than the Carolina Panthers. Passing on Fields was an obvious mistake. Always has been. Nothing wrong with referencing it. It was the right call and we blew it. And it was the right call frankly regardless of what happens with Fields. if you need a QB....you don't draft a DB in the top 10. Reason #4 at least of why we should get rid of our GM too. Can't stay healthy is Jaycee Horn. 16 games in 2 years. He has yet to log a season worth of games as he goes into year 3.

Wanting Wilks is no different than asking Tepper to bring back Fox or Rivera for a round 2. i don’t want the course correction from the Rhule error to be Carolina going right back to an old school DC mindset. It’s an offensive league. We need a modern era HC and a QB.

I didn’t watch. But you telling me somehow won a game where our QB had 43 passing yards and 2 INTs and our starting RB was kicked out??!!??? I refuse to believe the Saints actually tried to win

Why would you fire him. His QB is hurt. Nothing more. They have overachieved when Tua was healthy specifically because of his O design and playcalling.

There is a waiting line. And prior finalist are simply going to be ahead of 89 for a bit. Very few can jump the line. Peppers will jump the line.

I think Harbaugh goes to Denver

True. But that’s the unmarried cycle doing what it does. Because Hurney wasn’t let go with Ron. Which he should have been. now we are going to enter another new era. With a HC and GM not married if Fitt stays. so when trouble comes, Fitt goes on the chopping block. Because Tepp won’t want to admit to two back to back coaching fails. Fitt goes under the bus. Which would be easy to sell. I want a new GM and a new HC. 2 that believe in the same type team and the same type way of going about winning. With the same time clock, goals, etc.

I’d like a new GM for the simple reason I think front offices should be married. Forced to have the same goals and timelines. When they aren’t, the org always has a scapegoat for when things are bad. Coach or GM. The alternation cycle just does what it does and we have seen that over and over.