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Going now get's him there a lot sooner than waiting another year. It's football so waiting is the riskier bet anyway you look at it. The money is actually a huge deal since waiting another year won't raise his value but could lower it. In 2022 the first pick had a contract of $37.3 million and the 33rd pick had a contract of $9.3. Again, go when you are at the highest point to get the biggest 4 year deal. If the player is worth a big 2nd contract and they get a PB then the 5th year option is $30 mil (looking at Burrow)for him so again we are talking huge paydays here. Plus he gets another $2 mil bump for another PB.

IDK which side decided that. I was hoping someone still on Twitter would show that because I am also interested in that question.

Not being in the running for Harbaugh and Payton is just such a nice gift after the last couple of years. Ryans is kind of confusing to me. I didn't want a defensive guy but he is such a better coach than Wilks that if we were to end up hiring Wilks and not interviewing the much better candidate than it's a very bad sign going forward that there is a lot more to learn. That's like hiring Rivera over McD. It's offensive or bust looking at the candidate list post Ryans. Lol at Mayo and not Ryans. They need to talk to Ryans because that is the kind of DC you pay for with a black check and then again when he is getting HC interviews.

No idea why he would stay. I get hyping himself up, good move, but going back isn't going to help his draft stock and 4 million is a drop in the bucket if he can get a big 2nd NFL contract with even the rookie pay being well above that. If he was avoiding a team then just tell them 'no' like Eli did. Yeah he would get crapped on for it but going to a team that is a good fit and not a desperate loser mess is just good business IMO.

I need to see everyone prove they are not part of our problems before I can believe in any of them. Good news is that now is a great time to do something good so have at it. I like out list of candidates and haven't seen anything bad yet in this very new offseason so that's cool.

I have heard nothing bad about either Steichen or Johnson. 1. Steichen / Johnson 2. Kafka 3. Dorsey 4. Ryans 5. Reich The rest I just hope are not coaching here next year.

It's just a poorly run team. They don't have to tank they just have to be themselves. Even if they get a great QB they will still run him into the ground. I wonder if we will ever see another Manning type move where a prospect says 'nope' again. They really should sometimes...

I still think one of the top 4 guys is there around pick 9. Some of the teams in front of us will make a play on a Vet like Carr or talk themselves into the general plan we had the last 3 years. If Chicago takes a QB and deals Fields I don’t think they get the same haul as trading out of the #1 spot so I still think they keep Fields and get more players to put around him which they desperately need. If we don't have to more up more than 2 or 3 spots then it shouldn't cost us our future so if it's a dud pick we can just take another swing

So much better than the last coaching search. Some old safe options and lots of guys on the rise for actual good reasons that can be backed by recent successes more than 'did a meh job at a midrange school'. Sooooo much better.

Even if we walked back the guaranteed contract it would still be a no for me. Availability is the best ability IMO. If the Ravens get a haul for him then they are doing a hell of a job. Anyone trading a haul for him should be fired soon. Could get interesting but as long as it's not us I am happy.

Yup, I guess we scared him so bad he won't even interview now lol

Given his history and talent level he could win a few of those over the years. I'm impressed with SF's usage of him. 1 game he rushed more than 20 times with 10 targets or less in the passing game. Very smart.

Not coaching but Peters denied interview request with Arizona and Tennessee. Link For those that forgot, he bowed out of our GM search. But guys don't turn down promotions and more pay...(sarcasm)

Usually but this isn't one for me. The only way it makes sense to me is capping it on 2 or 3 year deals or it's just too big of a gamble IMO.

I agree but that is not what the players are pushing for.

I honestly think they should take less overall for a fully guaranteed contract and I don't see any positive for making longer deals in that scenario. I don't want Lamar because he wants both. Is he worth a big contract? Sure. Fully guaranteed at that level for more than 2 or 3 years? Hell no thank you very much. Hate it for him but the Ravens are smart to just tag and trade him to someone dumb enough to make that mistake. I just don't see how it's going to work or make the game better, it's already hobbled 2 teams for years more. I don't expect to see players stop trying anytime soon, I just hope more teams don't cave into doing deals like that.

Agreed. I really have had a problem with bottomless and the cap is dead, other than that I agree. Fully guaranteed contracts look to be another wrench for that system. It looks bad for Denver and Cleveland even utilizing the new cap approach.

You are contradicting yourself. If it's a bottomless well then why do the Saints have to figure it out? They went into this year dropping their LT and rolling with Hill and Watson because that was the best they could do with unlimited cap? It isn't real because it has evolved into a new way to use the same system? The cap still exist it's just being used in a new way. It is not dead and it does exist, even if you can't see it. It just isn't what it used to be, it evolved. I'm not even sure the competitiveness is not a wash at this point if every team is using it, again it adjusted and just works in a way that is beyond the original intent but still in the same mold. They can still only spend the same money that year under the cap no matter how they cut it up. The only competitive advantage was when the Saints figured it out and the rest of the league was trying to understand, that time has passed. Every penny of those contracts gets fit under the cap in some way so the only difference in how different teams deal with it is how they handle their internal cash flow. I do not belive this is like baseball and the As, otherwise how does GB afford Rodgers? Because the NFL's cap is well below the NFL team's revenues so no team is put into that position unless they are managed poorly into that position (which I would need an example of because most of the piss poor management is roster and employees related, not profit). The NFL will never go back to the old way, like Scott said, unless they or the NFLPA force it IMO. All I am saying is that it is still in the trial and error phase of the new chapter with it being used this way. Both the Saints and Rams have shown downsides to go along with the massive upside. I think there will be some more failures as teams figure out how to use this but also not fug themselves so drastically than those two examples. Every loophole should be taken advantage of but this one looks like the new normal. Neither the owners or NFLPA has any issues with it moving forward from what anything I have seen or heard.

The limit is real, they cheat the system by pushing dead money forward, they are still under the cap that year. It's a new way to manipulate the old system but people act like it's a bottomless well and it's not. The Saints already proved that. Saying it's not real is incorrect and missleading. It's ellastic and allows for a lot of creativity in dealing with cash flow, now ans in the future. That saying is just incorect but I get what you are intending. I still think it will receed a little bit back into a system where it is used and cleaned up in cycles not as large as the Saints or Rams used. It's such a scorched earth stratagy. The fact the Saints did it so long without another ring should be a case study at some point for the NFL.

It is real it is just different. The fact that signing underperforming players can catchup to you is just one way to prove it is very real. The 'the cap is not real' is completely missleading and not true. It's different but the 18 mil we owe CMC this year is real and will force us to push more and more, certainly not all top players, further and further back. Some of that makes sense and I think others are just people overusing or missused to being able to cheat the system. I absolutly belive that if you don't have a franchise QB contract on the books then there shouldn't be a huge, not zero but also not every deal, need for this unless you have really bad cntracts on the books, much like CMCs. The teams that won a SB with this method are having issues overcoming it. Watching the Rams HC walk to get away from it just like Payton is also part of that process. It is so real that they know the tallent isn't enough to make it work when it's that big of a hole.

I really don't like our cap guy. This screams to me 'I'm the smartest guy, look how smart I am'. At least the Saints were doing this for pro-bowler quality players lol. Embarrassing but U don't think it will change yet.

Not true. It is very real but it is also more elastic than the traditional approach acknowledges. I hope to hear a retreat from that careless appraoch and to some place in between those 2 operating styles.

To do it with out a franchise QB sized contract on the books is just embarrassing that they are doing this needlessly. And the money wasted on underperforming contracts, it would be funny on any other team.

All signs point to this crew re-doing deals and pushing dead cap back Saints style again. I don't like it but it seems to be what Tepper and the cap guy want to do. Until they don't I am going to assume they will follow that style of opperating. I hear you but I don't think it's that big of deal yet. We need both this year anyways until we resign Bozeman and we definitely need another DE.