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Absolutely. I thought a HC might could bridge the gap but Easterby is the turd in the punch bowl. Going to be interesting to watch for sure.

McNair kept Easterby, all signs indicate Watson will be gone regardless of their coach choice.

He did, it was just a confusing tweet.

He is a solid Vet with upside, his record or ability doesn't concern me. The cost being discussed is concerning and the fact we would have to commit to him before we got a great look at the QB prospects during the draft process would be a huge negative for me.

Has a strong arm and a solid brain. For any QB with those two things, they would need something negative to push them out of the first. Too small, injuries, toxic personality or a noodle arm would be reasons reasons viable QB fall and even then we see guy go in the first with concerns.

The more options the better at QB. I don't care about the 'experts' value charts, if you see a potential franchise QB you either pull that trigger or suffer. If this guy is this good, I don't see how he makes it out of the first.

That would make a lot more sense

Who the hell buys in bulk at QB and expects anything good? Buy in quality and pray the others never see the field outside of some runs and victory formations.

All these deals seem like better deals for thr clubs trading away then thr clubs trading for. Why the hell would he want Goff if he isn't a free agent? Even then it's filling a space for a year and then do it all over again. If he was a free agent, ok. Its an option if we fail elsewhere. Trading for him? Hell no to him and his contract.

Trading our 8th for Stafford is a no go. The fact we would have to trade it way before we could trade back once or twice makes it a no go. There is no spin that makes this a good thing. It would be a giant failure and a terrible way to begin any good change.

Kinda would feel like the ghost of Huney is still with us if they give up anything close to what was being discussed.

You need to go look at their injury report. Some of those are backups. LT Fisher - 1st OG Osemele - 2nd RT Schwartz - 2nd So that's three injured starters that were drafted in the first 2 rounds through out the year keeping to the idea they value good players that were drafted high, followed by solid backups who were not. Holding the backups as some kind of example to follow is incorrect.

Sewell is the only player I would want to see drafted at 8 if we can't get a QB right now. Trade back, get an extra 2nd and look to LT then CB in the first.

I couldn't agree more.

Ouch. On the flip side is how Philly imploded by obviously tanking. I just wish Ron wasn't such an idiot with his personal.

Rimmers can't handle speed at all but any coach that doesn't have his head stuck up his butt could scheme around him.

If he gets out of Green Bay he has a chance to make a couple of Super Bowl appearances with a team like the 49ers. If the Packers are dumb enough to let it happen someone is getting lucky as hell.

Once Houston signs a HC, the situation should solidify. Their asking price is ridiculous and some of the ideal landing spots for him are better for Houston than Watson, IMO. Will Houston try and keep him as this drags on or will they give in an move along with a portion of their asked compensation? No idea, it very well could take a year of him sitting if he can't find a likable landingspot and Houston to get enough compensation. I could completely see Houston's owner getting involved and making things worse, his disrespect for players being an issue in this dumb situation and at other times in the past. I do know for certain that I am happy to not be discussing this absolute mess about the Panthers. The rest shoukd be a wild ride over the next few months or year.

That what I'm talking about. I notated that those two teams haven't been drafting impressively and suddenly it's some negativity to our future? I don't want to be like Seattle or NE, be better man. I have heard model and emulate. Fug that, that's all I was saying and it's like well they win so be like Seattle. Take the good toss the rest. My hope at this point is that Seattle has stagnated with their success and lack of pressure from a hands on ownership and we got the best part of that machine.

Stop chasing models and just look at the parts. Did NE model themselves after someone? No, BB failed in CLE and became an evil genius. Did Seatle model themselves after someone? No, they hired Carrol and then the GM who where a huge match along with a great staff and did all kinds of crazy stuff to make a juggernaut for a couple of years. Did JR do such a good job chasing the Steelers the first 25 year that all the fanbase can do now it chase other teams with dreams of success? I am tired of following other teams. Is it so bad that I want to see the Panthers be the team leading the league in stead? Great coaching, was great QB play (Interesting to see where NE goes now) and savvy free agency where they get picks and players. NE and Seattle do all that really well. Can you really say their drafting is top of the league? Even with doing a curve for picking later? That is not why I don't want to emulate them, it because emulation sucks and is a pipe dream. I hope Rule and Fritters make something new from the successes and failures they have witnessed and not try to be it all over again. Is that so bad?

Those are your words. I said those teams were better than the Seahawks those years. I have said in the thread I want to steal what teams do well and not try and emulate the entire organizations. How many time has a BB top guy left and bombed elsewhere? Soo many because you can't emulate the Pats without cloning BB. The Bills and 49ers (without a franchise QB yet which is a huge wow) have done that. Thats why I like what their doing. KC is Reid basically running the best org in the business right now. His experience and improvement from his Philly days is really impressive. And nowhere in this did I once say I want to pretend we can be those organizations. Fritters positives seem to be his steady approach and his personality sounds like a big match with Rhule and Tepper. He stuck through 3 regime changes in Seattle, also impressive. But no, I absolutely see no reason to emulate Seattle, take their stability and leave their weaknesses, which they have.

I can because they are losers this year at 12-4, they just are better losers then us. Every team that won the SB every year since 2014 has been better than them. I have already agreed they are consistent but they are not finishing. At the end of every seadon there is 1 winner and 31 losers. Can you not see that? I am not naming them but here is a link, the winners were better than Seattle each of those years. I'm not debating their consitancy, i also never said they are not consistant, I was just notating their issues that have kept them from the SB. my criticism wasn't against their QB or coaching, it was that their drafting had kept them from being a serious contender. If they were better there, I am saying you would see more wins that matter most in that link. And on a final note, recent is relevant. KC is dominating, Seattle is sitting at home and has been since 2014. That matters more to me than how many wins Seattle has had in the last 10 years, even if that is impressive number it is way behind winning a SB. Nowhere did I say Seattle is a bad team or a not winning team.