Basbear

Yup hes never got over the groin issue form pre-season. Manned up week 1 and the following ones prolonging the healing time, then he got another injury to his shoulder. OL has done him no favors either. About half his runs, hes met in 4 yards in the backfield by 2-4 defenders.

I agree, hes looking a slot in-waiting.......that makes me more upset about him being 39th overall pick. Right now the future looks like a young leading a dink and dunk for mingo and tremble...... fyi mingo is the youngest and tremble is only 23.

i have a huge doubt hes ready in 1 or 2 weeks.

@Varking brother I can not even figure much after 8 games of this unit. Young killed what felt like 55% of the plays when frank was play caller. So whos at fault there for the 18 points per showing?? One game were it took a 4th quarter come back along with a 4th and 2 mid-field, to score 15 points. Thats not much to go on for the good. I do know this- The OL blows dumpster water. Christ was 10x more important than I thought. Too much for a rookie QB and new(to the team/system) WRs to over come a OL unit that can not run block or pass block cause they are too busy committing penalties.

The main debate was Burns or Luvu were/is panthers best defender. I said Luvu was the best last year(clearly). Then I would revisit this after a few&you claimed it was Burns. Besides one first quarter this year, its been ALLLLLLLLLLL LLLuvu ALLLLLLL the time. Last year showed the same show.

Us fans do not get to see the mega work and sacrifice these players put into coming back from was once a career ender/derailer. Some of the players truly love the game, cobert just showed hes one.

Yes I forget what insider said this but, it was like - " Frank and rhule want totally different type players across the team". You can not flip 50 players in one year. It was too much to overcome given the 0-6 start with the weak O and roller coaster D. Nearly a 98% new staff and total new thoughts and system, plus a rookie QB.

Guess the raiders were getting alll upset at Zona being the worse NFL ran team and made a play for that label. at least the panthers are not the raiders or cardinals....

I had too given Luvu playing out of mind, same as last year. Got to open these fans eyes&minds! Plus Id said I would revisit this and well....

finding great 4-3 DEs is ultra hard and may take 10+ years to find one. Wash just traded 2 like a bunch of smooth brains, WTF?!?! No chance RR signed off, I wouldnt have traded one of them. They should have given young his 5th year even with his injury history. Signed sweat(whos better than burns) for the market rate. terrible, of course herniay was on this staff....

Story was he felt disrespected by the panthers offer, especially after he ran hard late into the season. Then he took less to join the bears as result. The RB market is beyond unfair and fitts has been getting allll sort of heat. He doesnt want a 16 million player there nor to invest over the current market rate, no matter how low it is. I agree, feelings get hurt in the process.....

Panthers OL= -42.9 same for all the other games too

this OL is the biggest issue, such a surprise too. ALL of them are playing poorly. When they are not, committing league high in penalties. A rookie QB has to overcome that each series, too much and its week 8 of that BS....

Lwilliams was traded form the giants to the seahawks (2nd and future 5th) Failcons traded for one of phillys 7 DTs, street (swap late picks)

The OL being dogshiit is the biggest mind fug for this year. Ive been telling myself "Ickey, boz, and moton didnt forget how to play OL" for the last 5 weeks now. Best Ive came up with (besides the change to zone), is Christ was 10x more valuable than I thought and hes the #1 glue guy. Plus campy doesnt know how to teach zone technique. The run game is a total joke and I believe they are the most penalized team and thats cause of the OL fuging up non-stop.

Players have more power these days than ever, its a legit topic. I see the star players side of things " why lose my elite traits years rushing back" for a 2-10 season. I also see if the team has them under contract.... It wasnt a secret about how the team allowed or even forced CMC to sit out those late games in a wasted/non-playoff season.

its shocking that joke mcdaniels can not find a role for him in the "place white slot here" famous offense.

if somehow a slowing 31 non-burner WR is on the menu, just wait until the off-season and sign without wasting the 5th rounder in a 0-6 seasons start. shocked at panthers beat reports and trade articles. then i remember theres no longer common sense among everyone now....

Im thinking the same.

WRONG AND HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!! Panthers got a 3rd round comp and used it on all-world&Panthers legend DT/OG Sione Fua!!!11!!1!!!

I seen where it was a 6 week min injury.

SeLLLLLLLLL sell SELLL