Basbear

I swear I was about to start a thread about this guy.... Panthers offer a late rounder, but I didn't know his contract was that bad and he was not willing to revised. I do know this- He was very near the top on Panthers draft board in 2018, they loooovvvvvveeeed him. Since then lots has changed, he has become super injury-prone and a divia.... Low prove deal, why not....unless he's too cancerous.

He's too quiet to be featured on that show. Plus he's a pros pro, they want toxic and headlines sound bites or what Allens uses for hair products. I don't think Shaq is a big swear word user either.

I looked it up, Mark Carrier seems to be the guy.......I forgot about him..... Then its the one year wonders like rocket and "chosen(lollols)" etc. Lafell and Samuel had decent 4 years. I swear you can just have one great year or 4 ok ones and you are in the top 10 all-time list..... DANg tommy tremble and Ian "my god" Thomas are in the top 20 with WRs and I don't need to bring up the suckage stat level of them. awful.

My big question is Pratt is a 4-3 guy and evero is 3-4. Sure there is some overlap and its easier if you are elite. The colts are where everyones money is at about where he will sign. They have his former DC and more money than the Panthers, plus a huge hole at LB.

After that Wallace pick my smart friend turned to me and said " Dan is drafting like he's still playing ".... I thought some and was enough hot about the brooks trade up, that I agreed. ____________________________________________________ The best thing about the WR group- They are very young and have potential. The worst thing about the WR group- They are very young and have potential. When I listed the WR group as positive, I honestly do not know if the group is "fixed" or not. Im not from the future or nothing, but either are other folks. I do feel this- This is the deepest group I can ever recall in Panthers history. I'd say its 10 deep and past years they have struggled to bring 5 decent guys into TC even including the UDFA "superstars ". That's doubled my brother! The huddle is _______ and such, but its treatment of XLs rookie year is among the top 5 WTHs for me. Im old enough to member fantasy football, where it was against the unwritten rules to draft a WR before their 3rd year(rough terms). The trade up to make him a first...... come on it was for a late 6th and well worth the 5th year option. He had foot and hand issues starting in OTAs last year and still played for 500 yards, 4 TDs, and 50 recs. That was with bad BY, Dalton, and 9 games of bama BY..... in a new offense that was still finding itself. He's under contract for the next 4 years at a bargain if you look at current WR salaries. Coker had a similar year and he's under contract for two more years at min. pay. TMAC, was just the best player on the board. It had nothing to do XL. The deal about WRs is you can play 5 on the same play and its very common for many teams to run 3 WRs sets as their base. TMAC, XL, and Coker will be moved alllllll around and play different positions, no one is locked into true X spot. You should see this on game days and even Dave has said this too. The one group this team should know best is WR. Dave and his OC brad were WR coaches before each became OCs. In Dave's case, he logged around 8-10 years there. Then one of the better assistant coaches is none other than Rob Moore. Before he started coaching WRs..back in 2009 he was coming off a borderline HOF career. He's got 35 years experience. Add in Dave and Brad and its nearly 50 years. This is not like OL having proved itself, I am projecting here. *provided bama BY is able to get better, I believe this WR group will have a similar result and hold the good rank for 2-3 years.

People forgot that the think tank thought enough of smith-wade, to cut the vet starter troy hill mid-season. Just happened smith just injuried soon after. Personally I see no issues/PRESS THE PANIC BUTTON!!!1!1!! to take this group into TC. Of course Id love to have 5 all-pros at CB too, but this is the real world. Cuts and even trades happen once teams are going though the TC process. Just pray for health, like all other groups....

I'll toss my 2 pennies(rip) into this. I was not a fan of the Dan hire, I'd say 80against/20meh. The right hand stuff and being a part of what I viewed as the sorriest panther team in history...... The deal is some of the first moves he did saved NOTHING in cap space. He waived Bozeman, Vonn Bell, and Hurst.....That to me doesn't feel like Firererererere was listening to Dan to a high degree. Dan didn't have a 1st rounder which was 1st overall due to the supreme suckage. He didn't have 2nd rounder this past year which was a early pick right where the talent of the 2025 was. Plus the cap was not in the best shape.... The QB deal was in deep water as well. If you factor this extreme mess and analyze the current OL, DL, WR, and RB groups..... I have. Use your normal realistic cues. Even without playing the first game of this season, you must see improvement, right?? He simply could not fix all the problems, but the problems he choose to tackle... He did so like it was the 2003 Superbowl all over again. Factor in depth and age, those groups check the difficult boxes. Most of the players are young, locked in contracts, and there *should* be depth behind the starters. He's not going to bat 1.000, his mistakes have been pointed out numerous times. IMO, he does need some props for what I feel he's done right. Trade wise he's been killing the value side- extra future 2nd, starter level CB that's 28 year old for 240 picked LB that's bounced around the league, and moved up without giving the classic herniay future picks to land two edges whom are only behind QBs on the most valued chart. He also got a early 2nd and 2 5ths for a 8 sack-a-year edge that got nearly 30 mill per. Sure its got to play out and positive results are needed. Still if you know NFL and been watching since the herniay&gettlegut eras, you got to feel the process is on the up and up. Im not talking in typical off-season hopuim fluff either.... It's not over by any means either(please give him until the 2026 season end), maybe this is a real foundation in the making, us Panthers don't even know what that is...... This could be the first real long lasting winner than us fans have never had in 30 years and we are witnessing it....

Sanders looks like, nnnnnnaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.....

They also had no Dak, teams had no respect for passing the ball. That 1K should have never happened. I've been meaning to do a thread about RB, OL, WR, DL....... just how the shear will at the transformation form 2023. Plus if the gods allow Panthers playoff shocker, how great the team is set up to draft for safety, TE, and LBs. All due to Dan and Brandt and company *"fixing"* the OL, DL, RB, and WR groups. In record time, without the 1st overall pick, 39th overall pick, and limited cap funds. You would be better received than I...

Someone can correct me, but I remember video of canales basically admitting not playing BY&starters was a mistakes and changes would be coming this preseason. I nearly lost faith in him and his staff before the season started over that, if there was one player in the whole NFL that needed preseason reps it was BY...... he's young and learning too, props to him for making the correct adjustment this time. If and once BY is a 10 year vet with a couple SBMVPs, then its ok to sit him during PS...

That's inches sanders to you and if I see miles, this this first thing pops in my brain-

Is this the year the Steelers finally have a losing record?? Who is Arod going to hand off too? Who besides the newly traded and paid DK is going to run routes?? Who is the TE?? Can the OL hold for 5 secs without being flagged?? TJ watt is upset and underpaid, cam heyward is 49 years old, how has Tomlin done this?? Im not a fan, but go ahead and put Toms in the HOF, Jesus he's a wizard....

here I feel is the greatest overlooked skill for QBs. Being able to avoid hits, guess who was the best at that- Tom Brady. If you watch enough clips, you will see Tom take one side step left or step up, it perfectly avoids the defenders pressure. The other level is, he did so before he needed to. Just a grand master. It's simply a godlike trait and no one talks about it. I've pooped on BY plenty, he's much better than I thought at avoiding hits while running and still learning the master art of making defenders miss in passing situations.

I hope peeps don't bump my draft QB ranks where I had Anthony Ricardson ranked above BY..... Add another selfburn, I had Levis right next to BY if not slightly above him a couple different ranks..... * I did have stroud clear #1... *** BUT the way trends are currently....... its too early still, but BY is pointing up at least while the others are down.... Still wish that trepper never forced that trade, but I totally get he was beyond tired of waiting for a QB savior. Dang tepper, if you had the coaching staff, either Baker or Sam Darnold would have been the guy.

I can not speak much with saying "Im getting too old for this shitt" when I add this song to my playlist in the past couple years..... The one before was this banger-

That is a great observation and suggestion.

Who needs primetime when you get preseason NFL network coverage!!!11!!

I forgot to mention this- When you get videos like this, why care about toxic hard knocks??

My granddad took a visit to NO and visited Bourbon Street and he never could get over the vomit and piss smell. Also the amount of bums and pick pockets was too much. I know this about the most beautiful women, they are where the big money is. Young men- If you don't want to get cursed, never visit those areas.

That's a good one too, there's mineral pills and allll sort of other methods and supplements. I heard one way from a poor guy coaching, his method was drinking pickle juice. Still the proven easy soultion- just drink water.....like my god is that too much to ask??? I just feel this is pros....Its YOUR responsibility to be on field. Most times this is preventable, no excuses. This missed times hurts his chances to make the team, especially a late 6th rounder on a now deep WR roster. Now Horn gets to ride the Jstew/funch special bike while WRs are passing him on the depth chart...

I had the Tmac is the best/smartest course of action many months ago, I just bought into the rumored Walker talk(not cause I was a fan). I knew there was no fear on the offense side, unless someone wants to explain 35 year old AT as a threat.... No one to dictate coverage or get respect. Hubbard is good, but not to the point of worrying about if he's in the game or not. They needed a legit pass catcher and it had to come from the draft either 1st pick or 2nd. I tried to explain in many threads and posting, not many bought my sales pitch. Dan and company had the same thoughts tho...... I always was a huge Tmac fan, but turka21 just blew away anyone on the topic of Tmac. I let him do all my talking after it was clear he could handle any and all angles with Tmac. He killed it and if not, Id had 100 more posts about why Tamc was the 999999 IQ pick. ____________________________ Dan Morgan, my gods did he have one hellacious Duty to fix the Panthers. Not only were they the least talented, but he didn't have 1st(which was the #1 overall pick) or a early 2nd to aid in this rebuild. Not to mention the cap was not in great shape when you consider the level of talent attached to the contracts. Honestly its NOT even close to being over, he deserves another full season after this year to even get this team above water. I know this feels like my mind could be cloudy with hopuim panther gas, but it does feel and look like the team has improved. You listed off the free agents and with knowing all will not workout, there's still hope that Dan has solved the DL, just like he did with the OL. I mean I watched years and years of hernaiy and gettlegut try to fix OLs and DLs and besides some fuke deals they never did. I mean gettegut used his first two draft picks on DTs in star and KK, and that fixed the DL for the next four years. Still not to say Im marveled over the moon, but I do feel he's accomplishing one hell of a rebuild in the ultra crazy modern NFL era. *In a short time-line* *without all the draft picks and cap space*. He also had to clean up the Brian Burns and BY situations. You know if BY didn't have those last 9 games, Dan would be finding a new QB on top of rebuilding this swamp mansion in hurricane alley. Then he got the giants to bite on a 8 sack 30 million per guy for 2nd and two 5ths(one future). You can pick apart the players he picks, but nearly ALL trades the Panthers have won the value. I have been very impressed with that part.....(just wish they had better scouts.....ugh) I am looking forward to this vision, I hope the fans can remain realistic patient. (lololooll)

It always triggers me about hamstring issues and WRs. I blame the NFL career leader in hamstring issues- Devin funchess Memo to all players coming to NC- welcome to humidity!! in order to be a professional NFL player you must hydrate before you enter the hellscape. Grapes, fruits, pure H20, sport Pedialyte the night before and you should be able to avoid the nasty hamstring issues.