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I think he had 500 yards and 4 TDs, both were good for 8th among rookies. That was with BY finding his mojo in week 9. He had a good rookie year, fans need to realize this. Sure there were a couple awful drops at important moments and body catching as the season wore on. Those are correctable and if he's fully healthy, I believe he will improve on those numbers.

I agree about hating the draft, the only pick I liked was sanders as well. It's rare for ones book to be fully written within the same draft year....does look that way and I hated that brooks pick. They did cut troy hill to give the NB to Chau Smith-Wade, but injuries got him. If Crumedy can be a backup, that's a win cause most DL backups get around 20 snaps per. I got no read or idea on Wallace. Brooks is a longshot. XL played hurt for the entire year, lets see how he's looking during OTA, TC, etc. If If if you have a healthy focused XL starting, Wallace *wins the MLB job, sanders is either #1-#2 TE, CSW wins the starting NB, and crumbs is a top backup. That draft will be a super success and its very possible given the lack of cap space. You can view it from the positive side too, given we still don't know...(poor brooks tho.) We will know 3x more once the full off-season is compete.

Maybe in this era. A few played until low 40s. The hardest part becomes running down the field. I know JJJ took his body shape more serious that year Rhule drafted his replacement. He's carried that new body since. I remember Tim Wakefield pitching until 43, he was a knuckleballer and his MPH didn't matter. He still could pitch and get outs, the one thing at did him in was fielding his spot. Once teams knew, you bunt and get a free base due to the pitcher being unable to get the ball in a timely matter. JJJ can play until he is viewed as a weakness or liability. There's all sort of petides, roids, stem cells, and other meds that are reversing aging too. It's possible, very very low odds tho.

Theres was an Instagram pic with him on one of those scooters that evaluates the foot/ankle. Couple weeks ago at some fast food place if I remember right. He played hurt for the whole season and lost some confidence too. Did everyone forget him missing most of OTAs and rookie camp due to hamstring/injuries. He stayed off IR and kept playing with all sorts of hand, wrist, leg, ankle, hammy, injuries.... Didnt stop fans from jumping on him in his rookie year......

Not that Im defending that group or nothing. Its still too early to label it a success or failure. The biggest jump in most players career comes at season 2. You've had 2 full-offseason, *you should understand the massive playbook, you know what is expected from coaches. After a few early weeks into the season, I feel you can start saying _____ is trash etc. Plus the facts are you have 7-8 draft picks each year and if you only get 2 starters and one backup/STer role, that is considered "good". You can pick out nearly any team and check the last few years. So the good level is 2.5 "hits". There are rare drafts rams, Seahawks, ravens(I think they are the best 5th round drafting team easy), iants, cowboys have one of those draft in which they land 5 starters and couple top backups/STers. Those can change the course of a teams future. Panthers have never had one....

Your first two picks ruin the draft from a value nerd standpoint. It does go very hard in trying to redeem itself with the next 4 picks, but I simply cannot agree to drafting S, LB, or RB with the first two picks.

for other teams..

The phone has been ringing at that point. Take the best offer within reason. LT are always in need and Ive been saying that 8th spot is prime for OT. There are two others OT that teams could be hot after. Panthers will have options. Again this along with CB is the worst outcome, its not soo bad to me.

Cams keeps diarrhea talking showing how selfish he is. He's supplying a few thousand acre farms with his turd vomit...

sorry @musicman !!

So trade away players who you draft and developed for draft picks who hope to use on players you develop, repeat until you do what??? I swear there's no point.

Best I heard is many of the current HOFers voiced there opinions about its too easy. Mr Media Deion Sanders has said - " Dhey are letting in everybody now". "It's no longer special.. etc" So it will be longer wait for some and others now may not get in. I sorta see the point. Theres plenty of very very good players, but barely any HOFer. With the rules changes and records now being broken easier, I can see that WR logjam being butthurt before this is over. I also think more asst coaches need to be let in. It's a big mess, tho. I should care more, but Im at weird sports point in my life.

Honestly, I was thinking the other day... and was like "what have I overlooked??" It's upside or potential, who has the highest and Nolen was my first thought especially with his age.

Seems fair and I sure was a fan. He played great without pass rush or any other help. I mean what are you going to do, throw at horn or Jackson?? I think he had 17 PDs which was 3rd in the league. Plus finished with a high PFF score than horn..... sign him! _______________________________________ Poor Juan can not help himself and poor mods having to mop up all his titles. For all his baiting, I enjoy him here. He has to bring the most panther news to huddle, that's huge traffic. So Shape UP JUAN!!!

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-s-top-50-2025-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-1-0 Rank 1 Abdul Carter Penn State · Edge · Junior Carter is an electric edge rusher. He has average height and bulk, but he has an ELITE burst and his ability to flatten at the top of his rush is special. He gets a lot of early wins because of that speed, and he also has a nifty swipe/rip move. If tackles overset, he senses it early and crosses their face for immediate pressures/sacks. He also has a natural ability to retrace underneath when quarterbacks climb the pocket to avoid him. He can press out and control tight ends at the point of attack. He’s a blur when chasing plays down on the back side. Overall, Carter can take over and completely wreck an offensive game plan. He demands attention on every snap and that is going to free up everyone else around him. Rank 2 Travis Hunter Colorado · WR · Junior Hunter is a lean, athletic playmaker who starred on both sides of the ball for the Buffaloes, winning the Heisman Trophy in 2024. He has a narrow frame and is a very smooth-flowing athlete. On offense, he is creative in his release to escape press as a receiver. He is constantly changing gears to keep cornerbacks off balance and he never wastes steps at the top of his route. He drops his weight and explodes out of the break. He has elite body control and hands. He can pluck balls well outside his frame with grace and ease. After the catch, he is silky smooth and elusive. He doesn’t have elite top speed, but he’s fast enough to not get caught. On defense, he was much improved in 2024. He didn’t take as many unnecessary risks at cornerback, relying more on discipline and technique to stay in position. He can locate the ball and picked it off seven times over the past two seasons. My only concern is the question of how long he will be able to physically hold up if he continues to play on both sides of the ball full-time at the professional level. I’d prefer he prioritize offense and moonlight on defense. Rank 3 Ashton Jeanty Boise State · RB · Junior Jeanty is a fun player to study. He is a short, compact runner with incredible strength, balance and burst. He displays outstanding vision, tempo and feel. On inside runs, the Boise State product has a unique ability to absorb and bounce off tacklers. He has quick feet and never stops driving on contact, leading to some miraculous escapes and home runs. He is rarely -- if ever -- tackled when presented with one-on-one situations at the second level, exhibiting the capacity to run through defenders, make them miss or just burst by them. He isn’t polished as a route runner, but he has reliable hands and can create in space after the catch. He can identify, absorb and wall off in pass pro. He needs to improve his ball security, having fumbled nine times over the past two seasons. Overall, Jeanty might lack ideal size, but he’s a mixture of Dalvin Cook and J.K. Dobbins as a runner. Rank 4 Mason Graham Michigan · DT · Junior Graham is a powerful defensive tackle with outstanding leverage and instincts. He’s one of the most consistent players in the draft class. Against the run, he has an impressive short-area burst to attack blockers. He excels in block destruction. He stacks, finds the ball, chucks blockers to the side and collects tackles. He has lateral range to make plays down the line, too. He is always in a leverage position and never gets uprooted. In the pass game, he has a violent club/rip move and a powerful bull rush. His effort is outstanding. Overall, it’s easy to identify Graham as a former wrestler. He always has a full gas tank and he set the tone for the entire Michigan defense. Rank 5 Tyler Warren Penn State · TE · Senior Warren is a massive tight end who carried the Penn State offense this past season. He lined up in-line, in the slot and as a Wildcat quarterback. His production is the result of his size, catch radius and tenacity. He doesn’t generate a lot of separation as a route runner, but he walls off defenders when on the move. Defenders simply can’t get through his body to make plays on the ball. He can track the ball over his shoulder and he can high-point the ball when needed. He isn’t a nifty option-route type of player. After the catch, defenders bounce off him or go along for a ride as he drags them for extra yardage. As a Wildcat quarterback, he creates space with his power and leg drive. He's effective in the run game and looks to finish when possible. Overall, he isn’t as dynamic as Rob Gronkowski was during his career, but Warren is a similar player in a lot of ways. Rank 6 Jalon Walker Georgia · Edge · Junior Walker is a compact, powerful defender with length and explosiveness. He played both on and off the ball in the Georgia defensive scheme, but he’s at his best on the edge. As a pass rusher, he can win with pure speed, power and an explosive counter move. He’s also a weapon when used to spy the quarterback. He can mirror the QB’s movement before closing the space in a hurry. He dominated in the Bulldogs’ first meeting against Texas during the 2024 season. He’s a firm edge-setter against the run. When he’s stacked off the ball, he’s a touch late to key/diagnose, but he can attack and take on blocks or scrape over the top for tackles. He has outstanding change-of-direction quickness in space. Overall, Walker is a tone-setter on defense and UGA coaches rave about his makeup and leadership. Rank 7 Colston Loveland Michigan · TE · Junior Loveland is a long, lean tight end with outstanding awareness, quickness and big-play ability. He has aligned in-line, as a wing and in the slot. He’s urgent in his release. He has a tremendous feel for option routes and working in space. He can cleanly get in/out of breaks and he presents a big target to the quarterback. He attacks the ball in the air and is adept at finishing in crowds. After the catch, he has a smooth stride and possesses a nasty stiff-arm. He has some wiggle to make defenders miss, as well. His lack of bulk impacts his ability to stay connected as a run blocker, though. Overall, Loveland is equipped to make a lot of catches as a starting tight end in his rookie campaign. Rank 8 Will Campbell LSU · OT · Junior Campbell has ideal height, bulk and athleticism for his position. In pass pro, he stays square, bends well and keeps his hands in tight. He will expose his chest at times (due to his lack of ideal length) but he’s able to recover after giving up some initial ground. He can slide and redirect with ease. He flashes the upper-body strength to torque and control defenders. In the run game, he can wash defenders on down blocks and he stays attached to/through the whistle. Some teams will be more concerned than others with his lack of length, but I don’t see it as a major issue. He is just scratching the surface of his potential and should start at tackle for a decade, provided he stays healthy. Rank 9 Jahdae Barron Texas · CB · Senior Barron is a talented Swiss Army Knife. He aligned outside, in the slot and in the box as a dime linebacker for the Longhorns. He made impact plays in every game I studied. He’s a quicker-than-fast athlete with outstanding eyes and conviction. He’s at his best when he can play off and see through receivers to the quarterback. He reads the QB’s drop and anticipates to beat pass catchers to the ball. He doesn’t waste steps and has outstanding hands. He lacks elite top speed, but he’s always in position and he is excellent at locating/playing the football downfield. He has good timing and feel as a blitzer. He can adjust from pass to run defense to collect tackles. His batting average as a tackler in space is very high. Overall, Barron excels at taking the ball away and reminds me of Brian Branch when he was coming out of Alabama. Rank 10 Cam Ward Miami · QB · Senior Ward is a thick, compact quarterback with outstanding arm strength and playmaking ability. After spending two seasons apiece at Incarnate Word and Washington State, he put up monster numbers at the final stop on his college journey, becoming a Heisman Trophy finalist at Miami. He plays a very free-wheeling brand of football. He drifts in his drop, throws from a variety of arm angles and often falls away from the target upon release of the football. He can really power the ball into tight windows, but his aggressive nature can put points on both sides of the scoreboard. He has very quick hands in the RPO game and he can navigate around free rushers by dropping his arm angle. He took the free yards with his legs when voids presented themselves in Miami’s spread attack. Overall, Ward will need to be reined in, but he’s a very gifted thrower of the football. If he can learn to better manage the game, he has a very high ceiling. Im starting to think DJ should retire.....

Total out of left field, but what about Nolen at #8?? He's 21, great build, and tears apart OLmen in the SEC/everwhere. I swear I like him more than Mason Graham. He was the #1 overall recruit coming out of HS. Owned senior bowl. I feel its heavy potential, but hes got the highest ceiling in the draft.

I think another point would be you'd have a young QB growing with a young WR. Like the next ten could be special. Lastly I think Tmac is great fit for the type of WR that should excel with BY. Think about that.

I think the first Mack package is a ballpark- 1st and 3rd.....I feel that's too light. tho He's got 2 years left and what 29(?), but he's a peppers-like alien, so that age doesn't equal "old". Plus best I know, he's been healthy and no big injuries. The worst thing on the resume was the fake n-word and helmet swing on helmentless player. I mean if I was a GM that was very comfy with my roster, Id almost trade too much for him along with giving him new mega deal. If I was 85% sure my team could make the playoff the next two years, I would trade two 1st and maybe even mid-rounder/mid player for him. He's a difference maker. He's a big nerd, no off-field BS like many others. I'd try for less, but Id give up kings haul for him.

If Nico Harrison was the GM this would be possible..

That's the thing, Panthers need a starter more than depth.......yes they need depth too, but that chance at a top end WR could be sitting there at 8. There's a much higher drop off in WR than DL form 8th to 57th. I mean they need a new KR, PR as well. Jesus sooo many holes. Unless you want to put all your chips in the XL or Coker will be the stud..... I prefer to draft Tmac and rack in defenders for the next 4 picks......Then add in TE, RB, and maybe even QB for the true BPA soup and you have my perfect Panthers draft!! Its against my religion but they also need punter, kicker, and LS( equip poop armor )

I was team ladd too, but slot WR << X...which is what we hope XL becomes. That was about the only thing I came up up with favoring XL..

I heard one those draft guru nerds just engulf Walter Nolen as a EASY top 5 surprise/lock.

Watch out for this name- Michael Hoecht OLB. Rams top backup edge and they hired a rams coach for Intel. If the market doesn't get crazy, I think Panthers will make a strong effort. He's "young" too. Just soooo many teams have around 50-80 in cap space, while the Panthers are around 30 with cuts.....

I member Mike mycock, said he'd rather draft Mack over Clowney and no one else in the world agreed with him...... Ended up being right.

Evil, pure evil.