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The fans booed because they wanted Scoot because he has been hyped up for several years now. I remember fans getting upset about Melo as well. Fans didn’t like the Panthers drafting Luke. Fans aren’t always the best indicator. I get they are going to be skeptical of this franchise’s moves and it’s understandable. Again Miller was ranked 2 or 3 in most boards. It wasn’t some random move by this team.

Yet here we are trying to assume/prove it. It was released no charges would be filed against him pretty quickly. His story passed pretty easily so why are we doubting it so much?

That's fair. The consensus rankings had Miller at 2 and Scoot at 3, but everyone is entitled to their opinion and the case for Scoot being the better talent can definitely be argued.

Miles is a shithead, but I think Miller's situation is way different. No charges filed and he has been identified as a "cooperative witness" by the police. Was he being dumb/ignorant hanging with those specific teammates? Definitely, but you have to do a lot of assuming to make him a criminal.

Because he was already driving there and the gun was "unknowingly" already left in the back of his car. He definitely shouldn't hang on to someone's gun, but the main issue is hanging out with that crowd in the first place. I understand they were teammates, but you don't hear about Clowney hanging with that group. I hope a huge lesson was learned.

I think Scoot would have been a great choice (we would need a different coach, but honestly we probably still do), but I don't think that makes Miller a bad choice. I've seen pretty good draft grades for us so far.

It was a 18/19 year old hanging out with a bad crowd, who happened to be his teammates (which makes me feel a little better as he didn’t go out and seek these friends). Hopefully he learned his lesson, but I wouldn’t link his poor judgement of friends/teammates to him knowingly being involved with the killing of an innocent woman.

Pelicans have Ingram, Blazers have Dame. They need a player like Scoot, we already have Melo and need a scorer like Miller.

Yeah we need to move up with all those late picks.

All these teams wanting Scoot should make us think real hard about drafting him….

I’d rather gamble on Scoot or Miller than Ingram personally. I get he is a good young player, but he just doesn’t move the needle for me.

So a player was asked to give help, refused all game and the coaches did nothing about it while their MVP QB was getting physically destroyed? Sounds a little fabricated to me…

No I get it. It was a bad matchup with no game plan and no adjustments by our staff. That was peak Von Miller who was dominating a lot of RTs one on one. You have to send help…

Remmers vs Von Miller still gives me nightmares....

Yep both Budenholzer and Doc Rivers are available and would be immediate upgrades to help develop a young team like ours.

Now fire Clifford.

The most recent one comparing him to Baker with a “same poo different year” comment doesn’t seem to align with that, but I’ll take your word on it. If I had you pegged wrong then I apologize. Like I said nothing wrong with being against it before the draft, I preferred Stroud throughout most of it.

I got that from your pre draft comments when you were constantly talking about how his size doesn’t fit the models you were looking at. It’s no big deal if you were against drafting him. There is a fair point to be made against it, but the pick has been made and there is no need to keep raining on the parade. That’s all.

Ok so here is the dumb full quote. You reminded everyone our QB looked decent this early in OTAs also (pretty sure we traded for him later like in July and he wasn’t a rookie but whatever). We get you didn’t like Young because he didn’t fit in some random models you were obsessing over, but let the fans of his have their hype. This time of year with this team/staff should provide plenty of hype and hope for our future!

You the real MVP @Jackie Lee

Are the stripes on the black jerseys going to be smaller also? I like that look better…

Has to be those black practice jerseys. That was a real defining moment for him.

Good call! Looks like they missed it in 2010. Again I think Davis kind of hurt himself by taking that nearly identical roster to the championship the prior year. He is obviously getting more time as HC which he should.

Definitely a fair point, but he took that same roster and underachieved pretty bad by UNC standards. I mentioned his championship year. It kind of gave the fans too high of expectations… They are doing right by him and keeping him around. I think he will have them bounce back this year.