ForJimmy

I think his decision making is considered a weakness, but when I see him play he is hiking the ball and rolling away from defenders immediately so I’m sure that’s a huge part of it. Last year he had a 68% completion rate with 30 TDs and 7 INTs, this year he dropped to 63.5% with 22 TDs and 8 INTs so far.

But hey @WOW!!has had some solid counterpoints and I like seeing his optimism. We definitely could use more if that around here! I’m sure a big part of us fans getting frustrated is the early success we had in both of Rhule’s first 2 seasons. I’m not all in on getting rid of him, but the QB position needs some clarity because that can quickly become a coach killer. Overall his drafts are good but his offseason FAs are to be desired IMO. The whole Darnold extension was the biggest head scratcher.

Yeah the throwing stupid money at Teddy, extending Robbie, overpaying injury prone below average OL in Erving and Elf, going all in on Darnold and EXTENDING him before the season, passing on young prospects like Fields when Tepper was pushing for him, and now having to come running back to Cam to try to save the season. We have money tied up in Teddy this season and $18.5 in Darnold next. Not only did Darnold cause us to pass on Mac and Fields, but we could use his money to extend Reddick or sign a solid OG, MLB, or DT this offseason. His best offseason move was Reddick, but he has way more misses than hits.

We clearly aren’t the second best defense in the league. We had a nice first half schedule, but teams like the Cowboys and now WFT with solid lines can power right through us, and average team like the Vikings lite us up. We are talented enough to dominate bad teams, but struggle against good ones. When we get into the tougher part of our schedule our ranking with drop down some notches. We have talent and a good defense, but not elite yet. When our staff was “surprised” by how quickly our defense progressed we were 3-0 against Wilson, Winston, and Mills. 2 rookies making their first starts and Winston missing half his staff from Covid (which was still probably our most impressive performance defensively).

Faster than anyone expected? They spent an entire draft on it and signed FAs like Reddick, and Jones to one year deals to fill in what few missing pieces were left (sounds pretty “win now” to me). So we have Horn 1st rounder, Chinn 2nd, DJax 2nd, Brown 1st, Shaq 1st, Burns 1st, YGM 2nd, then proceed to sign Jones (solid vet), Reddick (great vet), to one year deals and Bouye (solid vet) to a two year deal. Of course they are going to be great and then we go and trade for Henderson and Gilmore? They are still weak against the run because they are designed for speed. All of this while ignoring the offensive line and banking on Darnold.

The problem is Rhule is all over the place. We kept hearing about a 6 year process to rebuild and preaching patience before the first year. Then they go out and pick up Teddy, and trade for Darnold because they are wanting a quicker turnaround. They trade away draft picks for Darnold and pass over Fields and Jones. They then trade for Gilmore after starting 3-0 and start talking about the playoffs. These are all signs of a “win now” team. If he had drafted a QB in the previous two drafts and possibly acquired more draft capital vs trading it away, I would be much more satisfied watching a young signal caller develop as the team gets better. Even bringing in Cam (which I’m glad we did) is a win now move. So the rebuild argument is starting to make less sense to me.

He did the same thing to Tampa, you know the Super Bowl Chsmps? I guess he outsmarted Bruce and Tom too…

Lol they prevented him from kicking a 40 yarder and decided to punt…

Best case scenario is Cam looks the part all season and gets an extension, and BC also looks solid enough at LT. We can trade down or look at G/C with our 1st round pick. We just need to replace our OC (and probably head coach). We can also look at a project QB on the later rounds to learn for a couple years behind Cam.

On a side note Christensen better be our LT the rest of the year… He was solid and should only get better.

Rhule just seems confused and lost too much. This isn’t a learn on the go type of job. I wanted Brady gone to see how he would fair with a better OC, but at this point I’m ok with moving on from Rhule. He was talking about rebuilding them he jumped on the win now train trading for Darnold, trading for Gilmore talking about playoffs in week 3/4. He hasn’t really done much to show me he is the guy. He seems to draft decent value players I suppose…

If you don’t notice a CB or OL, that means they are doing their job.

No one said anything about moral victories. You wanted to blame one of the few players who played well. Defense was terrible.

These Cam haters are going to have a freaking orgasm when he does have a bad game or throws a pick. He played great today.

21/27 seems pretty accurate to me. He also had 2 passing and 1 rushing TD with 0 turnovers. If you want to hate on a player this game DJax would be a good start.

Yeah after going to his 3rd option (the scramble) a block wasn’t held for another 3 seconds. Terrible! There will be (and has been) plenty of opportunities to blame the OL (Eagles game was the worst I’ve seen), but this really wasn’t one.

We only had like 1 drive in the 3rd. They clock controlled our asses to a tune of 36 minutes to 24. 50% more that our total minutes is killer, especially with a newly signed QB learning the offense.

He scans to his left, looks to his middle, then take off running to Moton. The RG at that point has lost containment on his guy. It was just a dumb play design with Cam and CMC on the roster on 4th and 2.

This OL people are obsessed. If the QB doesn’t have 5+ seconds our line was terrible. Cam will learn to manipulate the pocket better, step up, roll out etc… with more reps. The OL was not perfect, but played good enough IMO.

Agreed!

He is a hater. Cam played very good. Great considering how much time he has had with this staff!

Seriously! Lockdown CBs need to man up and let Shaq and Chinn come up on some blitzes.

His arm looked good to me. That TD to CMC was a thing of beauty!

1 sack and 5 QB hits, but sure we will just go with your “eye test” right? Time of possession was 36 to 24. That screams our defense lost this game not offense. I mean they converted a 3rd and 22…