ForJimmy

What if HE wants to play for the Saints over us.

They have a top defense that kept them in games without Brees. They have one of the better offensive lines with weapons in MT, Kamara. They were 9-8 with Semien (spell check) playing QB and were a constant playoff team before the QB injuries last year. Throw a talent like Watson on a constant playoff team with a top OL and you have a good shot. We are shopping every player not named Moton or Burns. That tells me we are still in the beginning of a rebuild (which is fine, but you don’t trade away a bunch of assets for the “final piece” when you gave several holes still). Say Watson adds 3/4 wins by himself. That makes them 12-5 or 13-4. We go from what 5-12 to 8-9 or 9-8. To answer your question, I doubt they trade star players (maybe MT). It would be Watson’s decision to go to a contender vs bottom tier team that would make the difference. Only team dumb enough to offer the next 2-3 drafts plus 2 star players is probably us…

That’s why it makes sense for them to trade away a ton of draft capital to acquire one. We on the other hand need a lot more… Watson maybe gets us in the playoffs and that’s because the NFC is getting weaker. Then we have limited ways to get better as his contract would be huge next year and we would have no picks.

It’s the same OL, with BC having a little experience which should upgrade the LT spot, the FA should dramatically upgrade the LG, Elf and Moton are the same and Brown can’t possibly be worse that what we had at RG last year. Should be a big upgrade IMO. BC will be the biggest X Factor and give us a solid OL if he is capable. We could probably draft another OG on the 4th/5th to compete with Brown and provide a little depth.

Drafting a QB usually gets the fan base excited too and it’s cost way less and makes perfect sense for the state of our franchise…

Shhh. I’m trying to pretend like that’s that happening. I’m over here in denial and you are trying to ruin it for me! Watson will be a Seahawk….

It’s not like Pickett’s year was a fluke. He was on the NFL’s scouts radar before this season. Got healthy, went to Manning’s school where he got some one on one with Peyton himself and put together one of the best ACC seasons we have seen by a QB. He broke Marino’s Pitt records and Watson’s ACC records. It wasn’t just a game or two where he played great, it was the whole season (ACC championship included). Then he goes to the Senior Bowl and plays a perfect game. Then he interviews, throws, and runs well at the combine. He really isn’t a bad QB prospect at all. His hands are .5 inches shorter than Burrow/Lamar etc with a double jointed thumb that points outward. The only negative I really see is I never really saw him play under a lot of pressure. I’m sure there is tape out there on it, just the games I watch he either had a nice pocket or had quick passes (which isn’t a bad thing).

I hope Watson goes to Seattle and Jimmy G would be good in Indianapolis. Keeps them away from our division and us. That’s the best case scenario at this point IMO. The we can draft a QB like most of the other normal franchises do.

I’d be happy with Howell, but I think we can get him later. I would prefer a trade down (not likely in this draft) or if we could trade CMC for Buffalo’s first (anything else is bonus) and use it for Howell. We could walk out with Cross and Howell in the first.

He was about to get released. It’s basically what we did with Gilmore.

He also had an injury he played through in 2020 which is one of the reasons he came back to play in 2021. He knew he could play better healthy and he was right.

Any solid OL. If we trade CMC, I wouldn’t be against Fournette either to share the backfield with Chuba.

Lol when did that happen???

Why would the Niners want him after what they invested for Lance??

Yep and everyone talks about how well run they are. If we are smart we will do the same. I bet the Steelers draft a QB.

Bailey Zappe had even more yards and TDs. If you are going off that he is your guy.

Yeah the Rams were a QB away from winning it all. Their team was loaded and already made several runs. Teams like that makes sense to trade away picks for a QB. A team with a ton of holes in its roster would be stupid to make this move.

I can’t understand why we are so determined to not draft a QB. Teddy, Stafford, Sam, Watson these things rarely work out and require a lot of assets to make it work (for the good ones). Let your scouts do their job and draft one, if he busts try it again in a few years. If we did this last year and drafted Fields we wouldn’t be missing picks and have money tied up in Darnold…

Yes that’s the allegations that are the most alarming to me.

Burrow is another example as well. Not an elite arm, small hands, not super fast but can read a defense and is dedicated to get better each offseason. If you can capture both like a Mahomes/Rodgers it gets real fun.

I get that. OJ was innocent in the court of law, Big Ben was never found guilty, nor was Ray Lewis. Watson’s case is a “he said, she said” case. You can’t convict people on those. There is still a civil case and that’s a lot of women for it to be a set up. There are text messages of him apologizing to one of them, so there is some smoke there as well. Maybe he thought he was paying for something else? Maybe not? It was enough of an issue for him not to get traded or play last year and still might get suspended multiple games for conduct.

Watson’s contract is going to eat up our salary cap. We already have dead money/cap issues. If we trade for him we will have no picks and no money for Free Agents. It will be a one main show and he will probably get injured behind our line with our shitty coaches.

Ok? I think the concern is more trying to force sex to someone who isn’t expecting it and not willing to do it. If he paid for it and both parties were ok with it from the beginning than yeah I don’t most people having a problem with that.

IF any of them are fabricating that is a terrible thing to do to any person. As someone stated it’s makes a difficult situation even more difficult for victims.

I saw a nice trade that was CMC to Buffalo for a first and Darryl Williams. Sign a OG like Schreff, Tomlinson, or Norwell and we will have BC, Norwell, Elf, Williams, Moton with two first round picks. We could draft a LT upgrade and QB in the draft and gave a much better looking offense to build on. It leaves a lot of options like Cross and Howell (BC becomes depth), Willis and a top OL with the late first etc…