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https://www.nfl.com/news/top-101-nfl-free-agents-of-2022-who-are-the-best-nfl-players-available I looked over this list before I pasted it. There are some good players still available. But, I don't know if any of them are worth blockbuster deals. Many of the most interesting ones/well known players are getting up there in or coming off of injury plagued seasons. There are some solid offensive lineman still available that could help our team. But, I can't say I'll be surprised or even that disappointed if we don't make in huge splash in the FA market in 2022.

Agreed. That amounts to one more week of games (1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6, 4 vs 5). Then, you're down to the final 4, and then the final 2.

This is exactly how I feel about NCAA football. Every season you know Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, ND (although that could change with the Kelly departure) and one or two others will be in the top 8; four of those teams will make the playoff. Those teams may still dominate an expanded playoff, but the season would be much more exciting if a few more teams were given a shot at competing for the NCAA title.

I'm surprised no one mentioned Derrick Brown. He was the 6th or 7th pick in the draft just two seasons ago. I guess that means no one here (including me) thinks we could get a 1st round pick for him. I'd consider moving him for a 2nd round choice. I don't think our defense would be dramatically different without him and a pick in the 2nd round would really help us in the 2022 draft. Now, if we could find a strong 3 technique DT to play next to him, giving him less double teams, I'd feel a little differently. But based on what I've seen the past two seasons he hasn't made the impact expected from a Top 10 selection.

Do they also need a DT? If you put Derrick Brown in place of DJ and kept everything else the same, I'd be ALL IN FAVOR of that deal

I would advise Panther Rhule to separate some of the text into smaller segments/pargraphs the next time around. It makes it easier to follow. I did too. I think we need to go O-line and get our QB next year...but I understand the rationale of grabbing Pickett if he's there at #6 and we're unable to move down to pick up extra picks. I only saw Pickett play in the ACC title game. I thought he looked fine. I wouldn't write off the season if we picked him. I think he'd have a good chance, as pointed out, of taking the starting job by seasons end. The new offensive coaches alone will make us better from Day 1. PS--I still think even Darnold has room to improve with a better O-line and an experienced OC calling plays. He has a low ceiling but I don't think he's as bad as looked in 2021. In all honesty, no one on our team looked that good last year. We need 2022 to be a do-over for everyone from the GM, HC, and the players on the roster.

I don't see why any legit QB would want to come to the Carolina Panthers in 2022. 1) Our offensive line is among the worst in the NFL. 2)Our offensive scheme has been one of the most predictable and unimaginitive in the league for the past two seasons. 3) Our best offensive player can't stay healthy and is rumored to be on the trading block. 4) We have few draft choices so we won't be able to draft all the players we need or move the picks for players. 5) Our receiving core has 1 legit starter at WR, and he's never had more than 4 TD's in a sesason. 6) And, you can make an argument that we have the worst HC in the league. Most of us on this board, and the pundits in the media, all agree that unless we have a miracle season or at least finish .500, Matt Rhule is pretty much a "dead man walking". He has a 50/50 chance of being fired by mid season. Whoever would come here needs to consider that he'll probably be playing for a new regime in 2023. Why would any good QB want to come here? At Seattle has extra picks to begin a rebuild this offseason and DJ Metcalf lining up at WR.

I just heard about this while listening to Colin Cowherd. If we had not been in such a hurry to move Teddy for Sam Darnold after one season and pick up CJ Henderson (a player we really didn't need), then we could have offered a 2nd and 3rd this offseason and significantly uprade the QB position heading into the 2022 season. Wentz isn't elite, but he's a lot better than anything we've had in Carolina since Cam was in his prime.

I wasn't just referring to Russell Wilson, but to QB's in general. I can't count the number of post on this very board where posters say "You've go to build a winner while you're QB is still on his rookie deal". A great QB is usually better in his late 20's and early 30's than he is between the ages of 22-26. The way the cap and NFL are currently constructed the QB's have less to work with as they get older. Sometimes 4-5 players can take up 50% of the cap space on a 53 man roster. That's ridiculous.

What you say is certainly true. But, it's sad that once a QB hits his prime the less likely he is to win a title due to a lack of quality players and depth on both sides of the ball. You would think it would be easier to win a title as your QB matures, no harder. These mega salaries for QB's have really ruined the game in a lot of aspects after you're unable to keep a solid team because of salary cap issues. But, I guess it doesn't matter as long as the QB gets his money.;

Due to our lack of picks and poor O-line we really couldn't go after him even if we wanted to. But, even if we did have draft capital for the 2022 draft I wouldn't give more than a 4th rounder for him honestly.

I don't disagree with anything in your post. But, this guy had 12 sacks last season. Despite the drop-off in the 2nd half of the year those are still impressive numbers. I don't see how we replace that production if he walks. Outside of Burns, we don't appear to have anyone else on the roster capable of bringing that type of pressure. I wouldn't be surprised to see our defensive ranking dip a bit in 2022. Burns may find himself receiving a lot of extra attention as well. We don't have a lot of picks this year so we can't get a pass rusher in the draft. And, quite frankly this team sucks. I don't think it's going to be easy to lure top FA's at any position to come play in Charlotte. Even if we do get a couple of comp picks, they won't arrive until the 2023 draft. All that said, Reddick ain't worth 17 million a year.

My opinion may be in the minority, but I've never been able to get excited about acquiring comp picks as a Panthers fan. If a guy is able to get a big deal in FA, that at least means that the guy is viewed as a solid starter by a couple of teams in the league. Comp picks are only worth 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th round compensation. Depending on the position, the players picked at the back end of the 3rd round (or later) probably aren't going to be as good as the player that left the team unless you have a player groomed to take their place. You can replace RB's, guards, linebackers, kickers, etc. with 3rd round talent, but it's a lot harder to replace CB's, pass rushers, tackles, QB's. You also need a competent FO to use the properly use the picks. We tend draft guys and don't play them or try to move them to other positions. You also need to have a shrewd scouting department if you intend for the 3-6 round picks to make an impact. Our recent draft history leaves me a bit underwhelmed.

Our record in 2021 was 5-12. We ended the season with 7 game losing streak. We were one of the worst offensive teams in the NFL. I don't find it surprising that we have no players on the top 101 list.

Drew Brees only played in one Super Bowl as well (08-09).

I doubt he'd demand a trade...but only because he's about to start his 5th season. DJ will be a free agent at the end of the season. If he chooses not to resign with Carolina, they'll have to let him leave & pick the team of his choice, or hold him hostage by franchising him in 2023.

In theory I agree with you Kev. But, one (new) player could fix this line in the following scenarios. Let's BC is competent at LT, Deonte Brown becomes a competent RG, Efflein moves over to LG, and Moton remains steady at RT, we could draft Tyler Linderbaum at C and actually improve our line with one player addition. Or, if BC could play LG and Efflein started at center, and the right side of the line works out in the outline above, adding a LT @ # 6 in this year's draft could also improve the line with only one (new) player. But, we'd have to have at least two new starters for 2022 already on the roster. And unfortunately we just don't know that at this time.

I stand corrected. Thank you for pointing that out.

I think DJ is good. I think DJ has the talent to be great. That said, if I were GM and thought he had no interest in resigning after year 5, I'd consider a trade if there was a willing partner willing to give up a 2nd choice...or solid player who could start immediately. I hate to say this, but if I were DJ Moore and had dreams of playing for a winning franchise/playoff contender year in and year out, I couldn't get out of Carolina fast enough.

No I was correct. 2019 (17) + 2020 (16) + 2021 (14) =47. I only counted the past 3 seasons. I left the 2018 season off on purpose because I was trying to illustrate just how bad our QB play had been since Cam was got hurt at the start of 2019, DJ Moore's 2nd season. For the past three seasons, the total TD passes as a team have decreased each season...in a pass happy league

You can't make that assessment based on what you've seen from him in Carolina. Do you know how many passing touchdowns the Panthers had as a team in 2021? Fourteen (14) Take a look at our passing TD's from 2018-2020 2018: 24 (Cam's last good year. DJ only started 10 games that season...and still finished 2nd on the team with 55 receptions) 2019: 17 2020: 16 It's hard to fault DJ for not being a double digit TD guy when Panther QB's struggle to throw double digit touchdowns in a season Tom Brady (age 44) threw for 43 TDs in 2021. That's only 4 less than the Carolina Panthers have thrown as team (47) the past 3 seasons (2019-2021) DJ's 16 TD over that stretch is more 1/3 of our total passing touchdowns.

I see the point you are attempting make. But this needs to be taken into account: DJ has played in arguably the worst QB situation of any of the receivers on the PFF list. Cam didn't finish the 2018 or 2019 seasons as the starter due to injury, so a large portion of his rookie and sophomore campaigns were with back up QB's. The last two seasons (2020 and 2021) he's had to play with Teddy B and Sam Darnold. He's also had to play in offensive schemes overseen by Ron Rivera and Matt Rhule, neither of whom would be considered an offensive masterminds in today's NFL. The fact that he's posted over 1,000 yards in 3 straight years with the guys we've had behind center IMHO is a testament of how good he is & can be. If he actually had a solid QB passing him the ball and a solid OC designing plays for him I think he could be one of the most productive receivers in the league. What type of stats do you think the guys rated ahead of him would have if they'd played in Carolina for the past four seasons?

If DJ Moore is really nothing more than a #2 receiver with replaceable production why does the pro-trade faction on this forum think there's even a trade market for him in the first place? If the above opinion is the mindset around the rest of the NFL, what do you really think the Panthers can expect to as trade compensation if DJ were dealt to another team? The opinions seem to be "DJ's a nice player, but he isn't a #1. He's a #2. Let't trade him and pick up some high draft choices in return". I wouldn't give more than a 3rd draft choice for that type of WR. Would you guys be happy with that?

I think a team with a little offensive talent as the Carolina Panthers had in 2021 would be crazy to trade their best offensive player (sorry CMAC, but you can't seem to stay on the field). However, one thing that needs to be considered is how DJ feels about the situation. Let's say he loves the Charlotte area and wants to be part of the effort to rebuild the team, then I think you need to work on an extension. On the other hand if he has no interest in signing an extension, then you may need to consider a trade instead of letting him leave after his 5th year. Some may feel letting him go is a good way to get a compensation pick. I wouldn't want to run my team with an over reliance on obtaining comp picks. 1) They are never any higher than a late 3rd round choice. 2) The draft is a crapshooter so there's no guarantee additional comp choices will actually make the team better, especially when you have a suspect front office/head coach running the draft. 3) In some years, it may be better to rely on proven FA's to fill roster holes than to rely on unproven picks after the 2nd round. If you knew DJ wanted out after his initial contract, and you had a willing trade partner, you could possibly trade him before his contract expires for a late 2nd/early 3rd round choice and come away with a better player than you would get with a late 3rd round compensation pick. https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-draft-compensatory-pick-projections-for-every-team Take a look at the link above. It tells you which teams are getting picks and the round in which they are available. A few teams are getting 3rd round choices, but most of the choices are coming in rounds 4-7.