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But if we deal Burns we can get TWO (at minimum) players on rookie deals. I like Burns, but he's no Reggie White. He's a good pass rusher, but I wouldn't put him in the elite category. If Burns was elite, then not even two players could replace him. I understand the cap guru's play with the numbers to find a way to keep guys on the roster even when the cap is tight and for the long term. Simply put if the best and final offer for Burns Fitts received was only a first and nothing else, I wouldn't be arguing this point. Burns would stay. It would be swapping a former first for a current first without the experience. Nabbing TWO impact players (at minimum) and only losing one just makes too much sense.

Either Spotrac or OTC, but our offensive offense is costing us $81.7 million currently

A new deal for Burns would be a cap burden for years to come. This is just making more and more sense to me. We already seen the reports that a team (probably Philly) was willing to deal the two firsts. Two things we desperately need going into next year is cap room and to stockpile draft picks. Dealing Burns provides both of those in not a little, but in a MAJOR way.

Also, Burn is in line for a HUGE payday and by trading him we free up MUCH needed cap room for next year. The more I think about this, the more it needs to happen.

Man, I hope Fitts is holding on for the pot to sweeten a bit. If we can land two first and like a third? At that point Burns would have to go. We'd have THREE firsts, TWO seconds, TWO thirds. That's SEVEN picks in the first 3 rounds. It would almost be stupid not to ship Burns at that point.

I'd take the RB with the 3rd rounder. Gotta get QB, TE and MLB with those first three picks. I'm just now starting to look at them, but the kid out of Illinois, Chase Brown, looks like a CMC clone. Haven't seen enough film of him yet to judge his hands in the passing game, but the same size, same shiftiness and same downhill burst in what clips I've seen.

Is it wrong I've already started simulations, lol????

Untouchables for me: Ickey, Moore (contract mainly), Brown, Chinn and Horn. I would say Burns, but if he can net us two first rounders? Any less than that and Burns is off limits too.

Not a snowball's change in hell. Not unless he get's hurt.

Didn't like his extension. He's continuously banged up, a shoestring duster and gambles too much thinking his speed can bail him out. The only other DB I'd part ways with I'd Henderson. I'd take a 6th for him right now.

With our first four picks, we HAVE to come away with QB, TE, ILB and RB. The only negotiable position is RB, that could be DE instead. We need our defensive general, so Mike LB is imperative. If anyone questions that we need a TE at this point, they are essentially blind. QB? Well..blind, dumb and probably has never seen a snap of football in their life if anyone thinks that's not a need for the Panthers.

Man I would love another first rounder though. I can't stand the thought of losing out on Mayer.

We need a stud MLB in the draft. Shaq needs to be out of the picture. Luvu will the be veteran presence. My top 3 targets are QB, TE and MLB. Now that we have a second 2nd rounder, I'd like a bookend to Burns.

I valued them a little high, but it remains to be seen where the 49ers actually land. I'm not sure they are instant Super Bowl contenders.

The value of all the picks equals out to the value of the 19th pick in the first round. SF didn't have a first round pick, but we got the value of a mid-first rounder.

At least somebody gets it. Good job! This year is obviously toast and next year is will be year-1, basement floor of the rebuild. No big FA signings required, so not a whole lot of cap room needed.

This is hardly the worst roster in the League. We lack a competent QB from being good. I said good, not great. Cap relief is enough cap space to make the necessary signings to complete your roster.

Burns, Brown and Chinn are the next ones up. Burns is the only one that gets done before the season though. I doubt Fitts restructures more than 1-2 players to get cap relief for next year. Again, we are like #9 in cap room for 2024. I'm not sweating it. If Fitts can get like $25-$30 in cap relief for 2023, that's all we need. Nobody is expecting us to go to the playoffs. So zero splash signings in free agency. With about 73% of the roster already on the books, most of them our starters and key pieces, we can round out the roster with team friendly deals for depth pieces.

It's a one-year debacle. As of now 2024 we are $101M in effective cap room. As long as we get our rookie QB, TE and MLB in the draft, the rest can be signed for cheap. Burns will get an extension sooner rather than later.

Yes and if his agent knows this he can bend Fitterer over the table. I mean most of us want Burns to remain a Panther, correct? But at what price? Also, Fitts has to get year one dirt cheap.

I'm going to see what happens first. Trading back would be an option in the right scenario. As long as we come out with a QB1, TE1 and a starting caliber MLB, I'll be happy.

Cap space or effective cap space? Cap space is 500k, effective cap space is about -16M. We have our core players outside of a QB, who will be a rookie. The rest of the contracts to round out the last 1/3 of the roster will be low end.

Look at the date. That was two days ago, obviously before the Anderson trade. True, we were about 30th in cap space for next year before the trade.

Yeah, I just went over next year's roster and honestly the defense nearly set. A few LBs and some backup safeties, that's it! The hard part is the offense. Crazy to say but our OL is really good shape, just a couple of depth pieces. This draft better be offense heavy. Obviously QB1, WR2, TE1 and a LB.

Signing Brian Burns to a long term extension is the most reasonable approach to getting some breathing room next year. He's due $16M next year. A huge signing bonus and start him out on peanuts on year 1 of his new deal gets us the most cap space. Going ahead and extending Brown frees up about $7M too. The rest of the moves frees up a couple million here and there. Extending those two alone gets us about $23M in cap.