45catfan

Sounds like a perfect fit for the Raiders! Nevada and Colorado are practically neighbors. Prime would have a really short flight to see his son play, that is if he doesn't get hired outright to coach Las Vegas.

You think Bryce is an elite QB? Lol. It was a general statement, if I were a GM building a team with limited cap resources and I could either afford an elite QB and average WRs or pay two elite WRs and a top slot guy and get a middle of the road QB, I'm taking the first proposition every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Pulling for the Saints so we get a least a top 10 pick. I think the Raiders lose out. Even if the Bills sit some starters, I think they still win against the Pats. The Bears aren't winning any more games. The Jags probably win versus the Titans today meaning the Titans likely lose out. All that said, I think we lose out too and stay where we are at, maybe moving up one spot due to tiebreakers on SOS.

That's his fault we suck? How would you feel if Drew Brees was calling a game recently and super hyping the heck out of an awful Saints team? You would be like b*tch please. Nobody wants to hear Greg pander, apologize for and prop up a really bad Panthers team just because he played here.

Define your "hump?" No, I'm serious, because the metric of success to define "getting over the hump" will be different from person to person. I bet some think we have because Bryce is playing better and we have already won more games than last year.

A #3? Number 2, yeah, on most teams. We don't have to sale Thielen short just to try to make a point. Poor drafting and development of young WRs along with other misfires in FA is why our WR corps is the way it is. All that being said, I'd rather have an elite QB and an average WR corps than an average QB with an elite group of WRs.

Thielen isn't the problem, maybe the other WRs, so your point missed the target. Dalton looked bad once Adam got injured. When he came back a month later and Bryce was the QB, the passing game got better.

With Watson restructuring in Cleveland, only the Titans stand between Sanders and the Raiders if the pecking order stays the same.

Listening to sports talk this morning, they said this is a horrible draft to be needing franchise QB. Suggested in a more typical QB draft, Sanders and Ward would be mid-to-late first rounders.

Stock diminished and currently injured Carson Beck declared for the draft. Any takers?

Shot called....Boone is going to feast. He's going to go over 100 yards, not just barely. I won't go as bold as 150, though.

One of the bottom defense in the League, but all we heed is WRs? Okay. Hopefully Bryce and his new WRs can drop 30+ about every week.

Merry CHRISTmas!

That was some good sh*t he was on!

How did you manage that? I tried for YEARS and the only takers I encountered is if I GAVE them away. Literally, I couldn't sell them well below their value. I just let them go rather than give them away. Congrats! It feels like making that last car payment when you no longer have that annual bill show up right around tax day.

Yes and better DL, LB, CB, S, TE, and possibly K in addition to more WRs. So again, we have to build the entire team around Bryce for him to be _______. The word I would insert is average. If it was so easy to plug every hole on the roster in order to prop up a QB, every team would do it, yet how many succeed?

And the Panthers absolutely suck at it. Thanks for making me feel better. j/k

There's not THAT guy in this draft unless you re talking a bout a two way player in Travis Hunter. This is looking to be a depth draft, not select your sure-fire future HOFer. Nobody in the top 10 has me overly giddy this draft.

That would be 2026. I think everyone knows he's our QB in 2025.

Yup, one great, one horrible, two very good and one average. Odd sample size and the outliers cancel out each other. so I expect a so-so (average) game to balance the two very good games.

So let's see this week. If this 'trend' holds, he should be middle of the pack following the Bucs.

^^^This. THANK YOU!!!! Nobody here (99.9%) hates Bryce or wishes the kid any ill will. The ultimate objective of finding the right dude to be the franchise QB is to bring home a Super Bowl. Some of us simply think Bryce isn't THAT guy. Is he playing better? Absolutely. Can he help the team to some wins? Sure. Is he the Panthers version of Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen? In my humble opinion, no, no he is not nor will he be. So if I am right (I could be wrong) what is our long term objective?

LTs are prime scapegoats, I would say second to only QB on the offensive side of the ball. So when the offense laid an egg versus Dallas, Ickey was right in the crosshairs. Granted, it was his worst game all season, but having one bad game 14 games in shouldn't necessitate a mob of angry villagers with their pitch forks on the Huddle like last week. The "trade Ickey" thread was over the top.

He's inconsistent, let's be honest. Juxtapose this and the Dallas game. Can't be objective and cherry pick. He's been on an upward trajectory, but from where he started the season, that's about the only way he had to go besides staying benched and eventually being cut. I get the enthusiasm, I simply don't think this is a sustainable winning formula.

Here it is in a nutshell: Bryce bad=horrible team effort, Bryce did all he could Bryce good= Look at what a great QB! He won in spite of his scrub team mates.