45catfan

Player grades versus drafting trends often don't match up especially the deeper in the draft you get. While you may be a stickler on your grades, all you have to do is go to history to figure out roughly the same amount of players at each position are drafted every year. Even if you consider this a weak DT class, I can promise you more than 4 DTs will be selected by the end of day two. Nearly two dozen DTs get drafted each year, so I can't see roughly 20 of those coming just on day 3.

There, that seems more accurate.

He has the most upside of the 'big 4'. His biggest knock is his not ready to start now. With Darnold here, he wouldn't have to AND we won't have to fall back on Teddy either. Slater I'm okay with, just not at #8. If we move back 3-4 spots and he's still there, I'm good with it. I agree, I think he's a better athlete than a completely rounded OT. Having two franchise QBs on rookie deals sets us up for big things in two years when Darnold is set to be a FA. Most teams would be jealous to be in such a situation. I was really opposed to an OT with our first round pick, but now Darnold is here, It's right there at the top of the list. If we do draft Sewell, I'll be very happy.

I'll be happy with Sewell or Lance; Slater as a distant 3rd. Anything else is going to be somewhat of a letdown. If we take a skill position without a trade down, I'm throwing something at the TV.

Some solid 3-techs with a 3rd round grade.

That's roughly the number of undrafted guys we sign every year after the draft. I doubt we add many more FAs, 1 or 2 max, if any at all.

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I'll take a 7th round comp pick and one of these for Teddy.

We traded for a QB and his name isn't Deshaun Watson. Can we move on now? This was unbearable even when the Panthers were being linked to him. Now it's time to move on. Yes, I know it's still the offseason, but some topics need to be put to rest.

Hard to tell. The value is cusp of end round 1/top round 2. The Bears would REALLY have to love a player to give their 2022 first round pick because, in all likelihood, it's going to be a fairly high pick. It would most likely be their 2nd plus something else to sweeten the deal.

All day 3 selections. So we are apparently looking at CB and WR in the 5th and 6th rounds. That had better be the SECOND corner taken if we wait that late to draft one. I've been mocking CB in the 3rd or 4th round. I've got my sights set on Adebo and Rochell.

I like Sewell at #8, but not so much the other two.

I would suggest the lubricated ones then.

For a 6th round pick, you are taking a gamble anyhow. I don't like the really big guys like Slanton and Shelvin. Once DTs get north of 330, they are basically glorified speed bumps to simply occupy O-linemen. I think Rhule values DTs that can get up the field, especially those from a 1-tech spot.

My take based on availability (top 2 QBs 100% gone): A) Lance/Fields B) Sewell C) Slater D) Pitts E) Trade down We know Lawrence and Wilson are gone. Miami, Philly or Detroit will take the top WR. One of the two between Fields and Lance will be 99.9% gone. That's four selections leaving at least one of those options unless another WR is selected. My thought is we are left with the option of Slater or a trade down. I don't like Surtain at #8, BTW. You only take generational corners like Revis in the top 10 and while very good, he is not that.

This is all about taking value in the draft. CB was the last glaring hole heading into the draft. I had been drafting two corners in the majority of my mocks. Now we don't have to reach for any needs.

FWIW, I've been doubling down at DT and using one of our 6th rounders on Bobby Brown or Tonga for a 1-tech. That way we have a bunch of young studs on rookie deals in the middle of the D-line.

I've been mocking Togiai with out 4th rounder a good bit. He gets after the QB and would be a nice 3-tech for us. Him or Williams for La. Tech.

Yup and Fields/Lance are much better prospects than Love. You can never have too many good options at QB and besides, Sam Darnold is no Aaron Rogers.

I do. You draft the guy, period. You have an ace of spades in your back pocket. a) Competition for Darnold--he can't rest on his laurels. Getting pushed by Walker or Grier? L-O-L!!!!! b) If Darnold doesn't work out, we are not back in the same spot by already drafting his replacement. c) If Darold doesn't work out, it gives the rookie a year to learn the NFL and our scheme. d) If Brady works magic with Daronld, we have a HUGE bargaining chip with a 1st round QB in trade. e) We could be a cherry scenario of having a starting level QB and a starting-caliber backup.

Watson's team made waves one year despite the talent on their roster. The Texans had a much superior roster to the Jets this entire time. Look, I'm no Darnold fanboy, but I will acknowledge the dude had crap coaching, crap talent and crap culture around him (otherwise known as the New York Jets organization) compared to most of the rest of the League. He very well may be damaged goods, but for essentially a 2nd round pick, I think it's a smart gamble considering he was considered arguably the best QB in his draft class at the time. Lastly, it sealed the fact Teddy is out the door.

I honestly think this board suffers from Post-Traumatic-Hurney Syndrome. Rational moves like this really screws with how they have been wired all these many years. It does not compute with them. Minds are literally fried. Going back to the Watson asking price several weeks ago, that on the other hand, the treasure trove we would have shipped to Houston somehow made sense! We are so used to getting royally screwed over in our trades and mind-numbing bloated contracts being thrown around that the Darnold trade is bad because, I assume, they can't wrap their head's around it. It's a reclamation project on a cheap (for a QB) rookie deal that we can be out form under in 24 months (or earlier) if Darnold doesn't work out. We lost a end-of-round pick in the 6th (comp pick) and a 4th of little consequence. The way I look at it is we lost a 2nd if Darnold is beyond fixing. I mean Darnold has to be more productive than Greg Little--our 2nd rounder of 2019 that currently warms the bench.

Cut it out, man. You are using logic and you know that's not allowed around here.

And some more camp bodies at corner. It's at the bottom of the Ivy article. Funny, even Gantt knows they are camp fodder. It was like an afterthought: 'Oh yeah, here are a couple DBs we signed too.' Lol, when a player gets one, solitary sentence on being signed to the team, well you know... Besides Ivey, A Pair of CBs Signed

^^^^This. Since when did a 2nd rounder become the Holy Grail? I mean over half the board was willing to part with our 1st rounders until 2024 to get Watson, but now somehow we have put all our eggs in one basket just because we shipped off next year's 2nd round pick? The absurd logic of the Huddle never seems to astound me.