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While this definitely feels like the Panther way lol, Rico is different. In hindsight, Chuba wasn’t doing THIS. You can’t let this guy walk. Chuba would pound away on teams and was steady, consistent, but he rarely rattled off chunk plays. Now, I think the shelf life at this point is 3-4 years max, but his big plays and physical, explosive runs are the only thing our offense is generating most games he’s played and it has been the sole reason we are winning them. Move on from Chuba’s contract, pay Rico, let Brooks and/or Etienne step in as the successor.

He is the franchise.

I am an anatomical male. You just got me pregnant.

Canales you fuging pussy. Tepper you’re a bitch with your fuging but adds middle schooler QB the staff doesn’t trust to throw a pass on a game winning drive.

Actually, I’ll shut my ass up, fiz. I was thinking specifically to the turnovers, but, full stat line, this poo is definitely not good. We are completely hamstrung by the QB position right now. edit: as I typed this we just had to call a timeout bc we came out in what essentially looked like goal line personnel to run and the packers matched it. If we had someone who could make their fuging passes, that would be awesome.

I get that we needed to play clock and limit GB’s possessions, but the fact our “franchise QB” has 83 yards and a pick in the 4th qtr and the defense is now aggressively shooting the gaps on Rico with impunity speaks for itself. And it pisses me off. i appreciate Bryce trying, and at this point he is a much better QB than Andy, but my God, who isn’t? This poo is so handicapping.

Hell yes. Good point.

The guy that hit XL needs to have his leg broken.

Ravens just traded Jaire Alexander to the Eagles with a pick swap.

I’ve seen Key mentioned a bit in possibilities for teams looking for edge rush help. Also, interesting Simmons is also out, bc last I read, he and Ward were the only guys the Titans said were off limits.

No I understand it from that perspective, but if you’re trying to win, you keep him and play him. While trading him if you don’t plan on paying him makes sense, we also chose to not keep Foreman after an amazing run to close that year out and it took us this long to find a similarly explosive RB that fits our offense. And while I appreciate all Chuba has done, we ultimately chose to pay him for being a good guy, and then got better production out of Rico on a one year deal. if we chose to pay him, it would likely not be anything near what Chuba got. So, my opinion is, if you’re trying to win, you trade Chuba, and ultimately whatever you give Rico likely fills the salary slot Chuba’s number was already occupying, and we get more production while also opening up more carries for our future back in Etienne.

This would literally be the dumbest fuging move ever, so it sounds like something we would do. I started seeing the rumors yesterday… im not sure if there’s fire there because being a home state guy, I know national media loves to speculate on trades where we’re sending out valuable assets to the blue blood teams because we have historically been “feeder” teams for them… but again, if there is fire there, this just makes zero fuging sense.

Saw something the other day about Mafe from the Seahawks may be available.

Also, wtf we sign Mike White for? It clearly wasn’t advanced scouting lol.

fug it. See what this Samac guy has got, bc Corbett is poo.

I agree on all counts, and my criticisms aren’t directed towards Morgan. I think he is doing great where he’s allowed to. QB should’ve absolutely been addressed with a contingency plan to the the contingency plan.

So he’s the Jonathan Mingo of backup QBs now at this point in his career. Bryce roster building hasn’t been a very fruitful undertaking.

I’ll edit it to reflect that. I just saw him sit down and watched for a moment because it appeared he sat by himself, and once the camera angle showed both of them there, there was zero interaction or conversation from what it looked like. Truth be told, I was at the fair enduring almost as bad of day as our team.. I finally sat down and watched it, but was still having to keep an eye out. By the way, middle-aged-man rant here - the fair is a fuging scam. $90 for 3 adult tickets, a sandwich, and two drinks before I even got to the fuging midway. All of everyday life is unfugingaffordable for everyday people as it is, the fair should be fun. The vast majority of people attending are inconsiderate douches. Prices should be reasonable. I was thoroughly disappointed and pissed.

The Bills are a well coached team. I give them that. They are a well run organization. That’s no excuse. The point of this thread is to point out that yesterday illustrated something much more troubling than losing to a good team. My takeaways: * We still haven’t found a coach. Canales isn’t it. He is in way over his head. Everyone knows how I feel about Bryce, but seeing Dalton yesterday, a lot of the issues Bryce deals with every week are now clearly thematic. I thought to myself yesterday, “but Ron Rivera looked like he was drowning until that Buffalo game,” and now in hindsight, he ultimately became possibly our greatest coach in franchise history. But before that Buffalo game with his seat as hot as ever, he did some of the dumbest things I had ever seen. He refused to adjust. He played guys that shouldn’t have been out on the field over guys who seemed like clearly better players. For example, Josh Norman sat for how many seasons, mostly because of non-quantifiable stuff. Canales suffers the same issues early in his tenure, it without any of the reassurances or pedigree that Ron had. Our offense stinks because of Dave, point blank, period. We can only guess about play calls and scheme because we don’t know all the ins and outs of that, but what is clear is that he has no idea how to put our guys in positions to succeed. Look at the number of players who have absolutely killed it that Dave tried his best to keep off the field - Rico, Mays, Christensen, Horn, etc. Now look at the guys he played over them. Ron only had a couple of those instances over several seasons albeit bad ones *cough* Nakamura *cough* Josh Norman *cough*. But, Dave is multiplying that by the umpteenth power in one season. And not only is it about the guys he is or isn’t playing, he doesn’t know how to use them. All of the TEs. The aforementioned Horn Jr. XL. Trying to make Corbett a center. Both Rico and Chuba are healthy, but he can’t figure out how to use them together. There is zero rhythm to the offense most games after that opening drive, and a lot of it is Dave playing guys that shouldn’t be playing and not knowing how to implement the ones that are that could help us the most. I had held onto hope because Dave’s positivity and his track record with QBs. But, the more I’ve watched, it has become clear, even in coaching extremely limited QBs, there are so many other issues that falls on coaching that he is responsible for. He is not a good coach. ***EDIT*** It was brought to my attention that Rico dapped up Chuba when he got to the sideline, so apparently it’s not all bad*** Speaking of Rico and Chuba, don’t know if anyone else caught that, but after scoring his garbage time TD that was force fed to him, when Chuba went over to the bench, he sat down seemingly alone. Then the camera zoomed out and actually Rico was on the other side of that portion of the bench. Another guy, I’m guessing a practice squad guy came and sat down closer to Chuba but between them, and from what I saw, Rico looked straight ahead. They never looked at one another, didn’t appear to speak to one another, nothing. Someone else correct me if I’m wrong, as I was heavily distracted, but if they interacted it would’ve been just a millisecond that I wasn’t looking… the body language looked absolutely discouraging. *Back to Canales… which is a further indictment that this isn’t just schematic or playcalling. Another reason he is clearly not a good coach - when we lose this season we LOSE. We lose big. We lose ugly. We lose unprepared. We lose undisciplined. We lose in every fundamental way. You don’t go from stifling the #1 offense in the NFL two weeks ago, to getting blown out at home 40-3 (Chuba’s late TD is irrelevant). In every facet of the game that we have shown improvement, we go out in losses like yesterday’s and make you question if it was fool’s gold. That’s poor coaching. It’s discouraging because the drop off isn’t incremental, these are huge wild swings. From a top 10 defense who excels at stopping the run, to giving up the highest individual rushing day in the NFL this season. From a functional offense, scoring around 20 points a game to 3 when it counted. We are -5 turnovers on the season. Outside of the obvious Rico Dowdle - Bryce Young, Jimmy Horn, and Travis Etienne are all statistically better rushers right now than Chuba, and yet, we are forcing Chuba touches. Rico only started two weeks and is still our top rusher for the season. That forcing Chuba the ball poo might’ve worked when we had no other options, but it literally is destroying the offense now and yet, he keeps doing it. This insistence of square peg, round hole football is all coaching, and it is absolutely demoralizing. We show zero consistency with any and everything, and that falls directly at the coach’s feet. Seeing all of this following the few weeks where it appeared the team was picking up some semblance of identity and momentum, and then to lose in such a fashion to where those staples we had begun to believe in were proven to be mirages is beyond discouraging. Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t expect to beat the Bills. I did expect to be competitive and still excel at the things we appeared to be making our calling cards. From the best rushing team for two straight weeks to pedestrian. From stopping the run and playing smash mouth football to getting blown out at him with opposing players averaging 12 yards per carry and receivers running wide butt naked open. There is no consistency or leadership on this staff. Period. Yesterday’s loss brings us right back to the sobering reality that we still don’t have a head coach and all the problems rife within the Tepper Era.

Not simping, just saying… people also thought Daniel Jones was washed before he went there because of how bad he looked with his previous team - I didn’t. Sometimes if they have the ability, a change of scenery is what is needed, but tbh, after watching us yesterday, I think our problems are much bigger than who is starting at QB.

Good. fug Brian Kelly. Fake ass bitch.

I mean special in terms of some of the physical feats. Everyone knew he needed refinement when he was drafted and he struggled with accuracy. But if you can harness that physical ability? He is capable of things physically that 99% of the population, including other QBs, could only have wet dreams about.

I feel bad for Chuba and bad for thinking it, but i’ve started to wonder if maybe he was as good as he appeared to be because we had no other good options. You know? Slow-and-steady-wins-the-race-type-thing? Because the poo we’ve seen the last two weeks is horrible. I saw someone tweet earlier that the current alternating series strategy limits both from their strengths - Rico’s fast, explosive hard runs, and Chuba’s ability to churn until he gains momentum. I just don’t fuging understand what Canales is doing.

I still think AR got a raw deal. He did some things as a rookie that were SPECIAL. He has the tools. I think he had to mature a bit, but he gets trashed and I feel like he doesn’t deserve a lot of it. I would love to pick him up and see what we can do, because he showed some promise already at times and you can’t teach the physical skills he has. That would be fun to watch. and yes, Daniel Jones, Jameis, Russ, Shadeur, etc., all made a ton of sense to bring as competition and at best they’d start, at worst they backup and be one of the best backups in the league. And yet, we decided, simply - “fug it.”

Mike White or Hooker, whoever is active, needs to be the one walking out in that field next drive. Dalton never needs to step foot on an NFL field again.