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bigcat…that u bro?

Wasn’t just the injury. He got lazy. But I wouldn’t consider him a bust. Grier was technically a 3 round pick, beat out by a practice field/XFL guy…I’d say a third rounder than can’t even get a backup QB slot is a bust. But he meets Hurney’s requirement of being homegrown, apparently that means a lot to some people. It’s the Panthers, and considering they didn’t even have 2/3 for a a lot of the years in the past decade, this is pretty sad, generous definition of the word bust: Clausen, Edwards, Little, Gaulden, Fua Butler, Worley, Brown, McClain, are teetering. Past that…a bit better: Irving, Jarrett, Nelson, Seidman, Anderson, Marrow (injuries), Carruth (duh, Tatum, Oliver, Price (injuries), Teetering: Jordan, Terry. So roughly the same number the past decade as the first decade. Don’t know exact number of 1-3 picks each decade had but I’d guess at least 5 of not near 10 more 1-3 round picks for the first decade of Panthers existence.

trade him to the Redskins for a first

Exactly what I’m getting at.

Don’t know what the hell you guys are talking about, I wanted Fields but I like the potential of Darnold too. No problem with it. I don’t care if Carter had a good camp. But I’ll answer the question for you. A couple, reasonable, quality 4-3 LBs alongside Shaq will be 12-15m. with Shaqs contract next year that’ll be 32-35 million of the cap going to LBs, or roughly 15-18%. And even more after next year. It’s not going to work. Just rough numbers of course but that to me, is an issue. That’s all I’m saying. Don’t expect much better than Whitehead with Shaq’s contract unless the Panthers devote an unreasonable and possibly detrimental amount of cap to LBs. Again, that is all I was saying. How is this such a wild statement? But feel free to continue to bash my opinion for taking a thread about a Panthers LB and relating it to another Panthers LB and LB position in general, by inaccurately referring to how I wanted a QB in the draft and am butthurt. Makes sense.

I’ll disagree and say Horn will be good if not elite. But, if the choice is Parons and extra picks and resigning Bradberry KNOWING Shaqs contract and the LB position is going to cause major issues later on, I’ll take option B all day long.

If you can’t see how it’s all related, that’s shortsighted. Again, how much do you think a team should be investing in LBs? If Whitehead and Carter should be replaced with quality LBs, how much do you think they’ll cost?

Personally, if we were set on Darnold, and Sewell out of reach, I think signing Bradberry and letting Shaq walk and trading down for Parsons would’ve been a great scenario future wise - cap and value. Extra picks, a CB, and can recover from Shaq’s dumb contract.

Get used to it. When you’re paying one LB a ridiculous amount and he’s not playing like Luke or as versatile, there’s going to be an issue. This is why people who say Shaq is decent never mind the contract it isn’t his fault, and then go to criticize Whitehead have a take that’s shortsighted. I mean what it is it…20 million next year? There was no cap space to do anything otherwise. How much are you willing to invest in LBs? It wasn’t there. Plus the money lost from Luke’s retirement. Hurney panicked combined with his hard on for LBs and this is what happens, another crippling contract. Pretty sure we’re stuck with that next year too. I hope to heaven he isn’t restructured. More cap will help but depending on what they do with Chinn, and moving on from Shaq, LB is going to be a big problem in the near future.

We have graduated from mindlessly debating mock seasons and articles ranking teams and draft picks down to the long snapper before anyone even stepped on the practice field. Shallow speculation to over reacting in Panther land only means on thing. The season is upon us. I’ll take it.

My interpretation - we haven’t done hardly poo to address the line and we expect the QB will have to deal with missed blocks. History tells us no one goes to the big show without an oline, and Rhule is not this magical exception. I am loving the die hard approach to finding a QB but at some point someone needs to realize it’s all for nothing without an oline, unless you feel you’re one of the three teams in the past 20 years to make it without one. In which case you’ll need to find the next Manning/HOF QB.

Teddy isn’t bad he’s just not good, he isn’t a franchise QB. He got flamed because our massive amount of cam bandwagon fans were butthurt. If sourrounded by a fully healthy team and elite defense, you may even end up with a shot with TB. And for some teams that’ll work. This is considering the assumption he was slightly better than advertised here for the reasons you mentioned, plus a garbage oline and lack of a Saavy NFL coach I think he’d need - not one straight from college figure poo out. But for a new team, coaching staff, and GM trying to build a consistent winner from the ground up? Just a waste of time. Consistency takes a franchise QB every time even with an inconsistent team.

I lived in CLT for 15 years and would’ve stayed too no doubt. Much better than SLC. But when you’re offered twice what you make…and guaranteed promotion to make triple what you make in a short time and can retire with a large pension at 57…I gottta go for it. But you better believe when 57 comes around my happy ass will move back to CLT and live like a king lol. And yea, severe drought this year people are freaking out. Like I said it’s either desert or fuging snow. I live on a mountain. Last year fireworks set off on it put it in flames, all over national new. My drunk ass neighbor comes banging on my door at 3 AM and we had to evacuate for 2 days. People don’t give a fug, about firework bans, you think sovereign cotezins hate the government? Try a Mormon/Utah people. https://www.google.com/amp/s/ksltv.com/440367/traverse-fire/amp/ Also earthquakes. The fault line here is set to go off and it will be bad. Within 6 months I experienced a 5.7. I was in my office, 6 floors up, literally felt like I was in water waving around. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Salt_Lake_City_earthquake You can’t make this poo up. I envy you Charlotte people, love and love life, you know not how lucky you are.

Guess what I meant was large compared to the amount *I’d imagine* would believe that which is like 1 out of 6,765,234 people, so yea like 2-3 being here on this site blows my mind.

Why are those days no longer feasible? I honestly don’t know. Population? I can at least half understand Colorado. What I don’t get is Salt Lake City, it’s hard to understand. Aside from tech companies what in the hell justifies the demand? Denver has renowned restaurants, liberal marijuana laws (not interested myself but I get it for others), all major sports teams, nice beers and brewery’s and yea mountain access. Charlotte same things minus MLB team but has blue ridge, and easy drive to beach or Florida. Both have better weather than SLC, easily. Both have any event/musician you want that will come though there. Can’t understand what in the holy hell does SLC have that males people think it’s Cali? It bewilders me as someone who has lived everywhere in the United States. SLC has almost nothing to offer. Snow? Skiing? That’s a niche when consider a place to move to. NBA team that’s it. College teams yea, ok, give it that. Desert weather or tons of snow. Sure mountain access is 20 mins away. Food? Known to be incredibly bad, because children make up most the population and no one needs good food with a ton of kids for taste and price. Beer? lol nah…Mormons don’t/can’t support that. Events, bands etc. don’t come here for that reason and other reasons, forget anyone worthwhile coming to SLC regularly. As I laid out in my last post/rant I understand why, just not why the why. I don’t understand the appeal. I just don’t get it to be honest, all I can think of is it’s because of the dominating religion.

It completely baffles me that a large amount of people on this forum legitimately don’t understand the metaphor and literally think he’s talking about the supernatural. What a rough life.

I think saying you are just showing up so you don’t get fined because you signed a contract you didn’t understand and then say you will handle yourself like a professional is kind of an oxymoron. But I do like how he laid things out to be understood. Problem though. Teams don’t and shouldn’t reward past play it’s a 5 year contract he’s 2 years into. If he has a bad or underperforming year do you think he’ll step up and take a pay cut? Doubtful. He was the highest paid and not someone else on the team is. That’s business. That’s what professionals put up with. The best players in the NFL are rarely the highest paid year after year. That’s how contracts work, that’s what professionals deal with. Yea the other CB isn’t nearly as good but as someone else said, another player will eventually be the next highest paid. Now if I am hearing him right and he wants to be paid based on his play, I say sign this man immediately and restructure with a pure incentive laced contract!

Pretty simple actually. If he shows flashes and gets a middle of the road like 8-9 record, that is success. You give him another year because he’s already paid. But so was TB, but there are obvious differences. Some of you have way too high expectations. This team has been god awful for a while now and Rhule just had his second draft and Fitt’s first. That said a lot depends on how we win and how Darnold plays despite a loss/win. There is a limit as to what the investment is worth and what else is available. If something great comes up and Darnold isn’t solid, it’s safe to say Tepper will jump and move on. I think he’d have to be TB bad (below average) to be gone.

Depends on your situation. But my realtor (he’s a friend too not just business advice) said if you can afford to weather out the storm in an apartment or temporary living situation, the ideal move is to take advantage, save and wait. Course other things matter too, if you love your house, already have a good rate or lots of equity it won’t be worth it.

Yep. I live in Salt Lake City and it is absolutely bat poo insane. It’s quickly becoming Seattle/Cali. For three main reasons. First people breed here like crazy, most in the nation. They want to stay here as it’s family friendly and they’re probably Mormon. Second is the tech boom. We call this silicon hills. People from Cali are flooding this city. BYU and the city invested very very heavily in tech, it’s all over here. And someone from Cali drools over a decent house for 800k. Tech brings them and so does being the closest largest city to Cali other than Vegas (10+ hours). Lastly the space. There is no where to go. The mountains, salt lake and Utah lake make space very very limited, and in conjunction to that the politics here want ‘healthy growth’. They will not build mass housing despite houseless people. I sat down with my realtor for two hours the other day. He is very passionate about his job and good at it. Couple points (granted SLC market) - The foreclosures will be a blip in the grand scheme of things and will not affect housing in any significant amount. The market is indeed leveling out at this moment, but it is not coming down for the foreseeable future. People are still going to offer asking and then some. This will go on through next year when things will still be appreciating but at a normal rate. I have decided to sell. I bought my house two years ago with a first home buyers loan and zero down payment. 4.5 interest, 375k. It’s now worth $550,000 (got it appraised), after 20k of updates. And my realtor expects a bidding war/offer to pay fees etc. So I will walk with about 200k in two years. I will stay in an apartment for a year or so when it levels a bit more, it may not be a better home, but if I put it down on the house similar to it I’ll get a lower rate and eliminate PMI and not pay for refinancing BS. That and I’m not a fan of the house in the first place. Charlotte is a joke compared to Salt Lake City. People are making cash offers within hours, waiving inspections, without even seeing the house lol. It happened to me before this house. I put in an offer 17 hours after listing and someone offered cash an hour after posting and don’t even want to see or inspect it. I’d absolutely KILL to have my budget and job in Charlotte, I’d be living very nicely (I’ve been checking houses for sale there just to torture myself).

These are still up for grabs. Be aware ticketmaster asks me for first and last name and email to transfer. Not sure if you can make an account with an alias and it won’t affect using the tickets.

Good lord the homerism is embarrassing. Statistics, history, and logic say otherwise - based on the division last year. You’re simply hoping a ton of areas improve. Hope is not absolute. And it doesn’t trump observation or history (last year). For instance a DeShaun Watson on last years team would not have won the division. The rankings just aren’t there. Statistically speaking, success with such poor team rankings such as last year, has been done like before literally a few times in all of NFL history what in the holy hell are people thinking when they post stuff like that…give me numbers and logic that is based on, no feelings or ‘potential’ please.

The oline last year ranked worse than cam’s average oline his entire career. So did the defense….the weapons? Arguably, smitty, Olsen…cmc is a split. One year cam had two 1k relievers including Olsen, and a 1k back had stew gained another 75 years to whatever. You guys get too caught up on weapons when you throw that term ‘team’ around. They don’t matter as much as you’d think ala 2015, and they certainly don’t make up an entire team. The oline matters so much more. Cam was failed mainly due to dinosaur coaching who had absolutely zero clue how to utilize a modern athlete and slightly due to an incompetent ownership/GM for the same reason.

Rothlisburger was the first NFL player to be be penalized without being charged or arrested and the penalty was given shortly after charges were dropped/settled in 2010. Despite weird poo like the first victim bragging about sleeping with him a day after it happened. The second, didn’t want any charges brought after a settlement. I bring this up only because of similarities, not for argument sake. I also feel this is a similar situation yet a different environment. The me too movement…the fact Watson isn’t white etc. Lots to consider here before coming down with the hammer avoiding some sort social injustice outrage. That said, the NFL usually waits and this that is nothing new, as happened with Rothlisburger. Frankly it’s lazy, and a means to cover up facts. Use whatever is found publicly to fuel the penalty while at the same time ignore the details. Rothlisburger for instance, despite no charges and just settlements was penalized for conduct, nothing illegal. Just the fact he was drunk and irresponsible. Nothing regarding the actual alleged rape…because that’s obviously a lifetime ban from the NFL I’d think. Basically, let’s see what the money can cover up what and penalize accordingly.

This can be locked. Sorry to the two posters, got a message before both the posts from a 2008 user (Jai.). Sorry!