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Lol So we will build an entire oline and literally an entire defense minus a slightly above average LB solely from the next few years of FA? Is that even possible? Lord help us if this is the case

It’ll be the second biggest movement of white trash rednecks of the year! (first being bicycle week at Myrtle obviously)

I am by no means a cap wizard...but it’s sounds like a good amount to rollover with the 89% rule in mind. Course this is over a 4 year period which I believe started this year. Maybe that explains TB? Then of course I think the rest of the league has to spend a certain amount. Maybe someone with more cap knowledge can confirm but this is basically how teams like the Browns were some ridiculous 80 million extra in cap space one year... Always good to take advantage of the rollover in a rebuilding time so the money is there when the players worth spending on are also there. Take all this as a grain though I’m not sure how it’s work tbh.

It’s kind of flipped. False accusers aren’t punished if no one presses charges. That makes sense because you don’t want to discourage anyone, false accusers are just casualties in that type of system. I’ll take it. But they can most certainly be sued and punished if their victim does something about it. So yea, wish that would happen more. But it’s extremely difficult if not impossible for the justice system to prosecute these kinds of cases without a compliant complainant though.

Meh I wish high profile people would stop settling stuff like this and I wish victims would stop taking/demanding a settlement. I understand there is a lot of legal and personal stuff that goes into decisions like that. But I feel issues - legal/justice system or otherwise would possibly come to light if all of a sudden things couldn’t be fixed with money. But in the end everyone just learns what the price tag was and not actually what happened or what we can learn from it in any aspect. It’s sad.

Both of these can’t be true.

It wouldn’t be so bad if they were just giving them a chance at depth...but they also seem to start and continually rotate because big men simply don’t heal.

But Hurney did not utilize option years and ‘voidable’ years. In fact his contracts were bulletproof for players. It’s why they loved him so much. It’s why TD and Olsen ran to get more money literally as soon as Gettle was fired lol. It’s why R Kalil was able to sucker Hurney for a two year extension yet was somehow injured less than halfway through, retired, yet miraculously was able to recover for a big paycheck from the Jets where he...yea was all of a sudden injured again. Probably took notes from Matt. It’s probably why Weatherly didn’t give a poo when he was signed. It was basically free money. Delomme was signed after an injury that is undefeated in destroying athletes’ careers. Why? Lots of other examples. Hell I’m thinking Rhule had the idea of TBs opt out option thank god. Nah Loomis is far better than Hurney. Hell I think he is an NBA GM too (not sure) lol. Bottom line, Hurney might as well have been a players agent, he worked for them, Loomis works for the franchise(s). Pretty sure the Saints will cut Tyson next year and not lose anything but just gain cap this year.

Pretty sure this guy is Hurney’s evil opposite twin just amazing I mean does the dollar amount even matter when it’s all ‘voidable’ lol

Hard to say with a new GM With Hurney, you know it was a move dooming us for the next several years Can we now evaluate things outside of being an NC native and loving your mother? I think most of us have PTSD from Hurney so have to let that go and see what this FO can do

Alice in Chains Pearljam Nirvana Soundgarden Jimi Hendrix Charlotte: Clay Aiken lol

Not much. But more than just cam threads. There are literally posters here who have pages and pages of history only posting in cam related threads. It’s the same as when he was here. You do not find that creepy/weird? What I stated was not a narrative it’s an observation.

You mean an entire 8 threads offer an NFL season? If cam was doing better you bet your ass the fanboys who don’t contribute anything to this forum except Cam threads were be starting them constantly and you know it. Cam hit the market last year... He probably learned from that and took a good deal after a poo show to prove he can do better. I haven’t seen one cam hater thread all last season, just realistic posts saying he’s done, a fair assumption after 2 years on the bench and a turd in NE. Maybe he’ll come back. He actually has a superior team and coaching in every aspect in NE other than his putrid WRs, but that and better QB play is literally all NE needs to compete.

Too 10 defense, top 10 oline, best special teams in the league, a HB with 5 YPC and BB as a coach... To say no no no cam needs superior weapon talent for the Patriots to win is literally saying Cam needs every single part of a team to be amazing to succeed, literally. And that’s pushing it because of his shoulder. Is cam now a qb you have to build an elite team around? I think so. The Patriots did not win game because of Cam. He was benched 3 times. Maybe Covid affected him? Maybe he had a bad year? Maybe his arm truly is done? Dunno. But he was wretched that’s a fact. There’s a reason he was signed a contract like that and @NAS video was spot on. It’s just weird the analyst see it, Pats see it, and going over to Patriots forums literally thousands of fans and are all in agreement about it. Then come to the huddle and get the real insight from creepy fanboys lol.

Derp go see someone about your insecurities, they’re clearly affecting your life

Yes... I see now. Fail on my part.

“Patriot fans seem excited that Cams back” wut? Lol https://patriotsfans.freeforums.net/thread/11186/position-on-cam-newton-changed https://patriotsfans.freeforums.net/thread/11185/newton-apparently-signs-year-deal https://patriotsfans.freeforums.net/thread/11038/cam-newton-patriots-2021 https://www.patriotsplanet.net/BB/threads/its-cam.69851/ https://nesn.com/2021/03/cam-newton-reportedly-re-signing-with-patriots-gets-mixed-reviews-on-social-media/ I mean I could go on, why the hell would you post some utter bullshit? Fans are rabid at the thought.

If that happens it’ll pretty much be a historical, groundbreaking strategy by building an entire SB caliber oline and entire defense from 3 years worth of FAs lol. Personally - I’d bet against it.

Why is this even a question? You don't just waste picks just because you need a QB. The team either believes in Jones or doesn’t. And if they don’t, pick BPA and continue to build the team while exiting fantasy Madden land and realize getting a franchise QB might take more than 1 year.

First of all the point is to look. I don’t believe the Panthers were even looking. Especially with the wear and tear put on Cam. People are willing to trade a poo ton for Watson and even to move up in this draft but those efforts to find a QB were 3 years removed from cam and 4 years removed from his first surgery...to me, that seems a little late considering the time it’ll take to find one. Are those trades ‘opportunities’ or just scenarios we can go get our guy. Who is to say what ‘opportunities’ there was in the past either in the draft or FA when the team wasn’t even looking with the same said efforts. I could come up with a whole bunch or hypothetical, theoretical sceneries for the past had the Panthers been willing to give up what they will now, after the fact - it’s not the point.

You still should be always looking. Hell how many QBs has Belicheck drafted in the top half of the draft with a healthy Brady? GB and Love and Rodgers before him...these teams have some forethought, Tepper did not. Thats the whole point they don’t grow on trees. Meaning 1. Always should be looking. 2. It may take time. My main points. And no I don’t count Hurney’s fetish for hometown hero’s (Grier).

True, seems like he just can’t win with the fans. Kept cam on the bench hoping he’d heal for 2+ years without a second thought about investing in a new QB, then was berated by fans saying he did Cam wrong. Would've been nice to move on earlier. Same can be said with Rivera and Hurney. I’ll chalk that up to his learning curve, but it still doesn’t mean landing a QB won’t take time. Hope he keeps his head in the game, getting desperate results in bad moves....I mean that’s why we have TB.

I hope not. On year removed from a franchise qb and were are desperate? I like to believe we’re just taking our lumps right now. It may realistically take a little while to land a franchise QB...just like well almost any other team that has one. All I am hoping is by the time he arrives our oline and defense case rise out of the bottom third of the NFL.

You must live a tough life not being able to read between the lines, especially now days. Even as obvious as it was, this was already theoreticized by a lot of analysts at the time. I’m sorry it’s beyond you.

Also JR/Hurney would have never in a million years drafted Cam and his boom/bust ability had the new rookie wage limit not been set in place that same year.