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If we got back to all super bowl winners (or even deep playoff contenders) since inception, our oline is going to have to miraculously go from 18th to at least top 10 but more preferably top 7. The defense will also have to go up to top 5. Namely the run defense will have to rise about 20 spots or so, the pass defense 10 spots or so. Thats a pretty tall order considering the the oline, on paper, is still trash. The defense may come close. I’m more confident in that. After that believe it or not nothing really matter post season, even QB play. Because at that point all teams are doing well. At that point it’s about not making mistakes and being able to close out close out close games not so much a QB dominating like regular season. Generally speaking of course. The defense and oline preforming top tier, are the top two biggest commonalities in the past decades regarding Super Bowls. Makes you wonder why the oline is always ignored. However having said that, the season leading up to the post season will have to include top QB play, often times more than just being a game manager, though it can be done. That’s really it. A solid oline allows everyone on offense to flourish, and allows for superior execution regardless of weapons or QB. But the offense is unlike the defense where you really do need a well rounded team. Defense wins championships is very true. And an offense gets you there. But for the Panthers specifically, all those pressures from last year need to turn to sacks and the run defense has to be addressed significantly. I wouldn’t hold my breathe this year. I mean it’s very rarely done in that amount of time. Taking a 5-11 team to a super bowl victory the next year not to mention ridiculous ranking jumps. I suspect and expect a playoff run in 2022.

Well the pass defense was ranked average last year. Considering we have a blitz specialist in Reddick added as well as horn and Chinn back there, plus Burns was always better vs. the pas….I just can’t see any way we don’t pull out above average. Not much changed to address the run game however which was bad. Maybe some better LB play, but Chinn is maybe no longer there so that’s a wash. Brown and the whole dline will have to step up big time in the run game from last year to keep the backfield fresh.

Yea better than last year, but that’s not saying much. I think the biggest question on defense is the dline’s run stopping ability which was atrocious last year. And it in turn wears out everyone behind them. With the addition of Reddick and Horn and Chinn at safety, I’m honestly not that concerned about the passing defense. Lat thing they need is zero run defense like last year. I’d like to see Chinn shut down pass routes and cause havoc in the backfield rather than constantly being the cleanup guy like last year, 8+ yards down the field.

PC should probably stick to your one liner posts, no one can prove shaq is average without stats which you seem to hate yet offer no alternative and in the same breath think your emotions prove he’s great while referencing a contract from Hurney as proof the team feels he’s great too lol homer and a fan are different fans can be critical and homer’s cant youre the same guy who loved the KK extensions and signing despite other ‘idiots’ not agreeing with you while his contract crippled the team same person who thought Fox and Rivera were the greatest coaches of all time and did no wrong and JR was an excellent person/owner because enter justification here this is a homer in every sense of the word, with zero self awareness or critical thinking as a fan defensive with insults, quick to point out inadequacies yet no solutions

Is there another source you use besides PFF?

20 million for a 4-3 LB and he is ‘under appreciated’ lol. I could’ve appreciated BB a lot more for a lot less. How do you appreciate that? So the contract isn’t his fault, fine. But neither was Teddy’s…where is his appreciation? As a fan of the team I can’t appreciate Shaq for 20 million sorry. Shaq is not Luke and he could easily be replaced. For every solid tackle he whiffs, and he cannot blitz worth a poo. His dumbass contract will be the last of Hurney’s that will cripple the team in.

Just that old southern redneck accent confused with words like were, was, is saw and seen. Charlotte feels like a small town because…it is one. I’d actually call it a mid sized city. But I population size is skewed because of the area that actually counts as ‘Charlotte’. I do miss the trees though and it is a nicer city, no doubt about that.

Really just depends. Since the best ones are still playing (Jones and Evans), who are both on track to be better than Smitty. Smitty is not the best WR or even second IMO. We can go back and forth with excuses and justifications all day long but those are the facts.

when stadium finally gets finalized: tEPpER WILL NOT BUILd a DOmE1! You HearD it fIrST fRoM me fOlks, tolD yoU1! -Trainwreck

Highly contemplating buying a Panther jersey with this on the back.

They forgot to mention when he ripped open his hand punching through his wife’s parent’s window on Christmas after getting sloshed instead of visiting with his kids which resulted in a protective order. Multiple players from different teams in NFL have spoke out they do not want him in the locker room period. That says a lot. I think one team even had him come work out for them to ‘assess his mental state’ (forgot who it was) and very quickly said fug no. He is unstable and surrounds him self with unstable people (shocking).

you always say this ever time someone was signed to the number 1 speculated team by literally everyone else

That is correct, unless you happen to be in an area DirectTV does not service (rare). Then you’d be able to stream it separately. There is absolutely no legal way for a fan of an out of market team to watch live games without DirectTV. And it will cost you $3,000 to do so. Either update your virus protector or get your lube ready.

Not sure if you moved, but you can ONLY stream NFL ticket without a subscription if you are NOT in an area DirectTV services.

Balls. I just read more articles and it appears you’re correct. Some are just outdated I guess. So if you just want NFL for the next two season you MUST have DTV with: 69.99 x 12 months (first year NFL ticket free) 109.99 x 12 months + 300.00 for 2022 season. = nearing $3,000.00 for two NFL seasons lol In 2021/22 are we really in an age where this is necessary? I mean really, this is extreme. This is why people illegally stream it. Just offer an NFL package to buy and stream instead of a selling point to coax people into an inferior broadcast provider. If it wasn’t inferior, you wouldn’t need to.

Kinda slow around here so perhaps this topic will interest someone. DirectTVs rights to out of network games are up at the end of this season. ESPN+ is likely getting them and claim they will make it much easier to stream out of market games. As an out of market fan this is glorious. I’m tired of shady sites of ads, malware, poor quality etc. I just want to watch my Panthers and relax. I don’t mind a reasonable fee (though I think it’s insane the NFL basically punishes and outcasts it’s out of market fans in the name of local marketing and revenue, but that’s another topic). As of now DirectTV is offering packages starting at $69.99 WITH NFL ticket included. It does not appear at this point you can buy just the NFL pass for $300 like years’ past (gee, I wonder why). A 24 month agreement is required...yet NFL ticket will only be included this year, not next year. People will be hooked into a year+ extra contract without rights to, let’s face it, the only reason people have DirectTV in the first place. DirectTV continues their sleazy, fine print, bullshit ways. Many people are saying it will finally die once it loses NFL Sunday Ticket and I say good riddance.

Easy thing to say because had he made adjustments, it’s impossible to know if we would’ve won or still lost. But it’s pretty clear from the lack of adjustments, he sure didn’t help and his well known stubbornness cost him at the very least a better chance. I mean from the comments of that Broncos defense...hopefully that’s pretty obvious.

Any fan that watched the play calling the entire 2015 knows this players fought their hardest, tooth and nail to overcome miserable play calling, schemes and compensate for zero adjustments. It was always horrid to see plays beginning and then gratifying to see our team come through. Positive results were often a result of busted plays, overachieving players, and our players became elite at adapting (gee wonder why). Feel free to go back and watch. No, the coaching didn’t lose any games for the team but it didn’t do anything to help and already elite team either.

If he sucks, fire everyone.

I body cares about them because people like consistency. People start knowing their name when it’s used season after season for a long time. Not 1-2 years. Also 1k was the old standard some of you are showing your age. Doesn’t mean as much now days. Nevertheless, I don’t understand how they went from 26th to 8th 2019,2020...and now losing Samuel brings them to 20th? And at the end it says they have the pieces to be one of the better units...is 20th one of the better units? The rank does not match the prediction. I like PFF for a lot of things, usually grades after the fact. These draft rankings a day later and positional rankings before the season even starts they do is trash.

lol only $100? Why not $100,000? Doesn’t sound like faith to me! Just a forewarning - the ‘fire everyone!’ threads after our first loss, are usually bans.

I think the idea was saving his entire contract and eating money this year. Course, I don’t know what the savings/guaranteed money was but he still had two years left. While he did well in 2019, 2020 was pretty bad. Maybe Rhule/Snow didn’t see him as a fit for what they wanted to do and wanted to save as much as possible on his 3 year deal. I don’t think we lost much by cutting him, but it is a legitimate question as to who will be replacing him. But the bar isn’t that high from his performance last year so and he is still a FA.

Yea I used the wrong wording. I meant restructure. And isn’t have a problem with the extension at the time either. Though if we used hindsight in this scenario, we would’ve been better off not never resigning him. We got one good year after his massive contract for 80 million or whatever. But again I understand resigning him at the time, though I think his decline was evident after his peak in 2015, and 80 million was way way too much when you consider what company he was in ranking salaries over that contract. I believe he was even slated to be the top paid DT in the NFL for 1 or 2 of those years. Had we never signed him we would’ve been better off.

Not only that but wasn’t it coming off a super bowl team/year? He fit very well with our defense and scheme. Hindsight isn’t 20/20 when the huddle breaks down due to these idiot moves (the Armanti edwards/Chandler Bell/Brown/Armini ‘experiments’, extending Short, signing Kalil, drafting Little, signing Jake, letting peppers walk for nothing, having the two highest paid HBs on the same team... lol....etc etc) the moment it happens. Armchair GMs should never be able to predict dumb moves like the huddle has. Not saying this place is right or wrong all the time, just scary to watch your favorite team make blatant, dumbass moves.

But how many were worth actually keeping around? Norman? Bradberry? Norwell? Perhaps they went on to be overpaid. But then again, overpaid or not, you have to consider where did their money actually go? To players like M Kalil....Shaq took BBs...Gano...fuging Short. Would you rather overpay a young draft pick or sign M Kalil? I think we all know where more money was wasted, overpaid or not. Not to mention being cap strapped later on when Gettle took over after Hurney went full on idiot in 2010 which was slightly a result of JR being a dumbass ‘businessman’ putting his money first. Just bad management overall. Bad moves everywhere, constantly. Success often came as a result of luck. But this is what happens when you have Hurney and then fuging rehire him as ‘interim’ for 4 years. This is what happens when you reward old players like Olsen and Kalil with farewell contracts instead of moving on. This is what happens when you are too stubborn to move on from vets and progress (Rivera mindset). You end up paying the wrong, old players and never have any talent to come in and take their place. Build through the draft my ass, always made me laugh when FO/fans said this. We paid aging plays and let draft picks go. It’s the exact blueprint for having a good season every 3-4 years, then resetting, as the Panthers have had since inception. It’s the recipe of mediocrity and the anti perennial winner.