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I enjoy O'Sullivan's videos - albeit he's not too hot on the overall evaluations it seems - but I appreciate how detailed he gets with the footwork / play concept breakdown. Really gives you an insight into what the players are working with and what they have to work on. I just think Warner says more with less.

I almost pie'd this. To me if Richardson anywhere near pans out he's a superstar. That said the more I watch Stroud (and specifically his trajectory) the more I think he could easily be a perennial top 10 QB in the NFL. I think Young will bust - but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

If they take Richardson (they won't) then he's won them over since the trade. It supports the theory that they made the trade without a definitive QB in mind 'cos you don't make that move based on his college stats / how fast he runs. You've been blown away by the tape and his interviews.

Dalton has better career stats than Cam Newton...

A) You can't ignore the size. B) I'm not sure he does have the best tape (especially when it comes to projection)

I mean you don't have a first round pick or second round pick next year to replace him. You also, basically, gave away McCaffrey to make this trade happen too (we traded THAT second round pick).

Warner, very quietly, is probably putting out the best videos out of Simms / JT O'Sullivan / McCown etc. Helps that they were all journeymen and he's a Hall of Famer I guess.

I mean we gave up a metric ton for the pick. If we get it wrong we've set the franchise back 3 years.

Cockblocked again. Always the same with these Panthers.

50/50. It's the NFL - you have to have clear certain physical requirements to even sniff the league. The coaching ranks are full of really smart ex-QBs who couldn't physically hack it in the NFL.

And Young's stats dropped off considerably when his WRs left - if we're playing that game (Stroud's didn't).

Does Curry regularly take hits from 300lb men in pads?

Don't make me pull out the recruiting rankings again, cos I will. He was at Alabama, not UAB.

It was 3 years ago, but the whole point is you're meant to IMPROVE in College - and again in the NFL.

LOL I respect his analysis, but damn judging the players based on who they were as High School Seniors...

I think Richardson is further along mentally than you give him credit for, but the rest is fair.

I mean he's thrown for 85 TDs, 6 INTs and 8,123 yards in his two years as a starter (with a marginal drop off as a Junior when he lost two first round WRs to the NFL). It's not like the Georgia game was the only one that he showed out in.

For me, echoing what's been said elsewhere, you have to take Stroud of the two. If you take Young and he breaks / you have to throw out half the playbook then you deserve to be fired. If Stroud doesn't work... you still deserve to be fired for the trade, but at least you might get another job. I'd also argue that if you look into the prospects - in terms of projection, Stroud has followed a more traditional path of improving every year and earning his playing time. Young is basically a QB prodigy (started as a FR in High School and transferred to a powerhouse High School) who never I fear is just never going to be big enough to play in the NFL. I'd personally gamble it all on Richardson, but that's me.

We gave up two first round picks, two second round picks and our WR1. Y'all wouldn't shut the fug up about trading a second round pick for Darnold. C'mon now.

"Man if y'all fug up this #1 Draft pick I'm going to buy your house, burn it down and piss on the ashes".

You lost me at #1 overall.

Again these are fluff pieces until you see which QB they pick and whether he's any good. A random Huddler could have traded away the team's future for the #1 pick - that doesn't make it a good thing. All three could very easily find themselves in the unemployment line in 2 years time.

I still think you have to be "this" tall to ride the rollercoaster, but I digress.

They're happening as we speak around the league.

I mean at the end of the day all of this debate means there's a good chance all these fluff pieces about how the trade went down are going to be Exhibit A in the court of public opinion when Young / Stroud busts. There isn't a consensus QB1 in this Draft and we were mental to give up so much for the pick.