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It's against the CBA for the coach to get everyone together right now. They have very specific dates and gaps of time they have to allow. You're just coming up with reasons to hate Rhule now. Also you're making this comment on a post about a couple players stepping up and getting players together so the comment makes even less sense.

Madden ratings are clearly dumb but they also have Baker as the 6th strongest arm in the NFL. Hes definitely not bottom tier when it comes to arm strength.

Yea I never understood most of the hate. Certain media outlets having us in contention for the #1 pick etc. We won 5 games last season, we were 1-7 in one score games. Just becoming average in those games would put us in the running late for a wildcard. Then add (on paper) a much improved oline, a (for now) healthy CMC, Horn back, and a qb that's not Sam Darnold and we may still be a below average team but I also wouldnt find it that shocking if we are in the hunt for a wildcard spot pretty late in the season. Who knows though. I just didnt understand all the rhetoric about being one of the worst teams in the nfl.

Maybe we could being Rosario Dawson back to play TE again as well.

I also, for whatever reason, am just not quite as negative and doom and gloom as most people are with the team right now, I still see potential growth and improvement. Which kind of surprises me because I can be a pretty pessimistic fan sometimes

Also the fact that I would bet if say we surprise everyone and are a wildcard team next season, somehow this time next year I'm sure they would have our "futures ranking" much much higher which wouldnt really make sense for ranking futures but I gurantee that's how it would work. Am I saying we will be a wildcard team next season? Probably not, but I do think we are much improved overall and the games arent played on paper for a reason.

This is fairly silly and skewed. I know this is futures rating but say this season we are the 31st worst team and we take a qb with that 2nd pick. What do you think next year's "futures" rating would look like just by taking a qb that has never played a snap in the nfl. I get it, but it all feels fairly bogus to me.

So many, I dont want us to try to make moves to make the team better because I want Rhule to fail. Such a strange take as a fan. I agree about not giving up too much draft capital but jeez.

Yea, I dont know about this for sure great qb that a lot of people are sure of, I definitely hope they're right, but regardless I know this time will let him go through all the mental reps and time to see things from an nfl qb perspective which is a lot different than hes used to.

Yea it's true with basically all positions but especially qb. It's like when you look up combine records, most of the names are unknowns who never panned out. I still think being given some time and not rushed in is definitely the best thing for Corral and his development.

People overrate physical traits all the time when it comes to qb. Most of the difference between an average QB and a great qb is between the ears. Not how fast they are or how far they throw it. There arent many times the best qb equals the best athlete.

Pre tommy john Delhomme was a pro bowl qb.

This time last year everyone was drooling over Sam Howell and Spencer Rattler as top 5 picks.

Wow for all the people who personally hate Sam Darnold for whatever reason I dont get it. He seems like a really good dude even if hes not a good nfl qb. To reach out to Mayfield the day after he signed and help him get in contact with all the other players and stuff because he wants to win first and foremost is pretty impressive.

No one is giving baker a pass or lower expectations. People are happy we got him because it is another swing for a qb that cost us basically nothing and has no lose condition.

Exactly. I'm not sold on Rhuld but I dont hate him either. I think it all comes down to how he learns from the experience he gains, but even worst case I feel like it should be looked like when the team brings in a player you dont like. You may not like them but if they are on the panthers then I dont understand why you wouldnt want them to be great. I want every player on the roster and every coach on the staff to be great and in my opinion coaches just like players can improve, but regardless in the end I just want to win and I will never cheer for them to lose entirely because i want someone to lose their job.

Yea I'm sure baker definitely shoulders some of the blame. It's just weird that he has turned into this villain while OBJ who has a history of drama and bs comes out smelling like roses and the majority of people seemingly cheering for him to get a sb.

I've been wondering about that too. The main thing everyone mad about the move talks about is how he has a bad attitude and is bad for the locker room and I always heard he was popular with most of his teammates the seasons before that. Its weird how much hate Baker gets for that and OBJ gets a full pass even though he actually has a big history of that type of stuff.

I think he knowingly bought a stolen laptop. I believe there was something about him trying to hide it or throw it out of a window or something if I remember correctly. It's been a long time though lol.

If he was released we probably wouldnt have got him for under 5 million for sure.

We were good at scoring in the first quarter and terrible the rest of the game. That's an indictment on the OC.

So you want the team to be bad to teach someone a lesson? Sounds like a good fan. These aren't children. Also, I dont understand the fans who are 100% certain that someone doesnt get better at their new job with experience.

We werent a top 5 pick last year with Darnold and he really couldnt have been worse than last year and the oline has greatly improved on paper, CMC is healthy (for now), Horn is back and healthy. I dont think we were ever seriously in the running for a top 3 pick.

We weren't a bottom 3 team in the league last year, we had the 6th pick and went 1-7 in one score games. Our roster overall has improved since last year. The people who thought we were in the running for the top pick were caught up in the hate for Rhule and the over reacting sports media. We were never going to get the top pick this coming season.