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Actually classic Marty Hurney is thinking what you're doing is great and will pay off in spades while everyone else is looking at you perplexed. It's been ten years of this through two different GM's. We are hoping a similar approach will yield us different results in the short term. There is nothing unreasonable about that observation.

Of course not but you just said they could suck for eternity and still have fans. Thus the obvious point about over half a century of brand building has an impact on the loyal fanbase they have today despite a glaring lack of success. Even the Panthers have come a long way within the last decade. It takes time to build generations of fans. But Carolina really needs to get that no back to back winning seasons thorn out of the way.

The Jets and Browns have been around for a combined 100+ years compared to 25 for our young expansion team. That makes a substantial difference.

So Steve Smith Sr has no idea what he's talking about but you're going straight to a Peyton Manning comparison? Let's focus on Sam just becoming a good decision maker with the football that's the biggest question and is the most pressing concern moving forward because he has a history or turnovers regardless of footwork.

What bias? I am completely aware that he is physically not the same quarterback he has been in some years. The ride looks to he over sadly but hey that's sports. All that being said it does not mean I have to ignore nonsense when I see it. These stereotypes about black qb's need to go the way of the dinosaur so future kids don't have to put up with dated preconceived notions based on nothing more than numbskullery that also gives way to criticism about the sincerity of smiles and listening to music in practice.

In the realm of criticism it's low hanging fruit and should be considered such the same as baseless assertions about intellect or work ethic. There were assertions made about Sam Darnold in these areas and they were quickly shut down rightly so.

People complain about this thread and his name being mentioned but they still keep it going and even post memes basking in his failure. Ya'll really aren't as slick as you think.

This all seems so familiar...

Special teams hasn't been a negative overall so far with Rhule and our return game has been alright so I'm hopeful they have a solution in mind. But at the same time this close to the season I'm thinking of the Rivera mystery return man days. Just no more of that please and thank you.

Availability is also a question that looms large with Erving Elfein and Paradis. All have an injury history and all have been banged up at some point along the way so far through camp and preseason. We're only as good as our depth and that depth is...

Even if you can justify hinging the season on signings like Erving and Elflein bc they were all that was supposedly available the more egregious error was thinking we were good with our starting center which is just as important as left tackle. Paradis is the same he has always been. I got grief from ppl for mentioning this a few months ago but here we are.

I agree. But if what you say happens and he remains the same it is going to be directly influenced by the oline we put around him. If this line performs how we fear Sam is going to revert to bad habits no matter how much we coach him up. He can still make plays but you're going to have to take the good with the bad.

We made the same excuses about Marty leaving the cupboard bare when DG was here. The results from his approach weren't pretty. Using the same blueprint isn't likely to yield us any better odds this go around. Good thing Sam has some mobility.

Our approach to the oline this offseason is giving me vibes from the dollar store Dave days. But rattle off those excuses fellas. Won't do us any good come January though.

Let's be honest. In one half of a preseason game we saw the summary of Sam's career to this point. Some jitters some scary some good and some potential. Who knows what we're going to get

You don't necessarily need a top 10 you just need someone who can make the necessary plays or you know..push the ball downfield. I have much hope for our young defense but I fear familiar results await us with this offensive line.

The Broncos aren't exactly known for their stellar quarterback evaluation and decision making over the years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Denver_Broncos_starting_quarterbacks If Carolina isn't careful we could end up in similar qb purgatory. Except there won't be a Peyton Manning riding into town and the league won't be gift wrapping us a Super Bowl win.

Keep the shirt. Give me a winning record.

If the Panthers want fans to stop looking in the rear view they need to win. But praying quarterbacks like Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Darnold will take them to the promised land won't change much in the short term.

NYJ 4th round pick from last year. Are we just stockpiling Jets failed players? And people thought we were going to bring in an upgrade over PJ Walker

Look I despise the Saints but if you think Zoolander won't give us all we can handle with Winston you're dreaming. That's still a talented roster. I am eager to see our new pass rush introduce themselves to Jameis though.

That list isn't exactly prestigious company. Some serious playoffs droughts in there. Let's hope some leaders stand out for us this season.

It's weird right? Guy hasn't been on the job a year yet and if you ask any questions you get people giving you the stink eye. We all want the same thing but some of us have additional perspective through the failures of past front office executives so things will get looked at a little more closely now. So far there are things to like and things that seem like more of the same ol' Panthers. Like the oline. We're gonna find out soon