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And all that you said is fair. I can agree with all of it, but depending on how many tightends we keep day we keep 3 does he get cut? He can't be worse than day manhertz who was a solid blocker but that's it..

Either way. The guys you brought in aren't exactly A1 talents or surefire better than Thomas type of guys. Could they beat him out? Most likely..but are they that much better than him that he is cut?? Humm And that's a point no one can argue against. Also I'm curious is it Thomas fault or more a systematic design as well? Even tremble the guy we brought in was more designated h back or blocker type. Maybe that's what the system needs?

I really don't see Ian Thomas getting cut... how often does a young starter from last season go from starter to cut during camp?

I have no idea why people hate the idea of retractable domes. I mean granted the price tag, but on the other hand have any of you been to boa when it was 90 degrees sun beaming and your on the wrong side of the shade.. it felt like my insides were baking. It sucked. I for one don't mind putting in for a dome if it makes the experience all the better and don't really care for the"football is ment to be played in open air good Ole days mantra" indoors perfect scenario I'm all for it.

The ownage in this threat is hilarious

He was a regular follow of mine. Got most of my hornets info from him.. this sucks..rip..

There is a ton of talent I agree. But top 10? I suppose it's in the range of possibilities I just wasn't expecting it so soon. Hard to imagine after a lot of what we seen last season. We saw flashes just no consistency.

I mean whatever logic you want to apply to it. I wasn't saying okung was good or bad it's about losing a starter and playing the guy behind him doesn't really make your team better.

I agree again on rule. But, my expectations for this season might be a bit higher than your own. Not because this isn't his first true season, but because of last season the team was already highly competitive. We don't know for sure how darnold will look. As he goes do go we. I don't think we got worse and improved in multiple areas. Corner, Reddick adding to the pass rush. Cmc returning and hoping there is no fall off at tackle or replacing Samuel I don't see any reason we can't finish around 8-8 or whatever the new status quo is for being 500. I don't think this is a playoff team. But next season that should be the goal.

Agreed. I don't think anyone working at the highest level of coaching or scouting couldn't see very early on those guys were a weakness. My point was more aimed at the theory of addition by subtraction. If you you got better by just cutting a guy then why was he even starting to begin with. Basically if we cut say okung last year are we better playing Little?

The patriots weren't a bad team? They were which why they were able to spend more money in free agency than anyone before. Not a lot stars which why they had a lot of cash to burn. The bills are the best team in the division which is why I didn't mention them as a free win. Traditionally tho, the pats have been able to sleep walk into the playoffs with the jets constantly bad. The dolphins have been bad for a long time and even the bills before Josh Allen turned the corner and the current office.

Not sure that wins you more games. If you had better behind whitehead or teddy why start them to begin with?

This part. They also play in a historically bad division. Pats,bills, dolphins,jets. You could almost sweep jets and fins and that's 4 wins.

But that brings you to the question why were they starting anyway? At the time they were the best we could do.

I mean I disagree. A team that lost brady gronk,Edelman out for the season, Ben Watson, not to mention the offensive line subtractions, Jamie Collins signing with Detroit. Not sure if they lost Hightower or he opted out. Lost Kyle vanoy.. a playoff caliber team???? They didn't add much they just lost players thats a rebuild. You don't get better losing players.

Playoff caliber team? You are high. They shredded everyone from Logan mankins to opt-outs that team was not a playoff caliber team with or without Newton.

They wanted marcel darius over cam.

Agreed. I am not advocating for trading down to 28 at all. I just ment in a decent situation.

I can agree with most of what you said. But this is business. In doing business you can't take personal feelings into account no matter how you "feel" about them. I do think you try to screw them and the price for rivals is probably higher although, you have to take into account this is a completely new regime. Tepper, Rhule, and scott fitterer for that matter weren't around for any of that stuff you mentioned. We as fans want to make our staffs hatred and pride the same as our own but these guys aren't fans and are professionals. I would hate to miss out on a haul like say what the 49ers gave up to get to 3 because it's the Saints bucs or falcons. If what they want to trade up for isn't what I want and the price is good I don't mind trading at all.

Agree with this. I just can't get with the notion of not listening at all to their offer because they are the saints or any divisions rival. I think you atleast see what they are talking about if nothing more than to get some idea of what they are thinking draft night.

Wouldn't say that. You listen to all offers. No prospect is a surefire thing so if they offer enough and want to take a swing I'm all for it. I'm sure we atleast called Atlanta about number 4 as well.

The whole "mortgaging the future" tag might lean a bit to the extreme. The cost of a second round pick vs a potential franchise qb sounds pretty cheap. Yes I know we passed on fields and Mac jones just like every one in the league including the ravens on Lamar Jackson. I don't think darnold will look bad enough to sink the franchise or on the other end push us into the playoffs so the results will probably be middling for a while.

All these sources but the teams actions say otherwise. I can believe the Lance part but Mond in the second???

But gained a starting qb who would have went second this year in the draft.

People have an opinion about everything. You say your sick I'm sure your mom ar one point in time tried to diagnose you like she was a doctor.