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I felt that way before the season started, but I'm sorry, he's already proven he isn't that guy, I don't need to learn anything more about him. He threw the ball 30 times today and could only throw for 198 yards, which was his 2nd best yardage game this year, he's just not the guy. Which means this season has already moved onto the 2nd most important thing going into this season after evaluating Bryce, and that's developing our best young players. You don't do that by only throwing 8 of your 30 passes to your best player who is still only a rookie. Pepper him with targets and help develop him so he's ready to take a huge leap next year when we get a real HC and QB to get him the ball.

I know this will get eye rolls coming from me and after a win, but I'm less concerned about that than I am the actual play calls when we do pass it. T-Mac had 73 of 198 yards receiving today, or 37% of our passing yards for the game. T-Mac had 8 targets on 30 pass attempts, or 27% of our targets. T-Mac had 6 catches on those 8 targets, the two he didn't catch was one play that 100% should have been called PI, and the other Bryce sailed the ball out of bounds to where T-Mac couldn't even attempt a catch on it. When you throw the ball 30 times and your 2nd leading WR has 31 yards on the game, there's no logical reason for your Top WR to have only 8 targets. I'm sorry, but none of that adds up, why are you not even trying to throw the ball to your best player in the 2nd half of a game you're losing? If we just barely passed the ball in the 2nd half, I'd get it, but that wasn't the case, again, we had 30 pass attempts today, only 8 went to our best player and top draft pick, it makes no sense. We won, great, awesome, but it was more because of the Dolphins poor tackling allowing us to have some huge runs than anything we did to actually beat them. So when that happens, I'm still going to be frustrated by the play calling and decision making by Canales and Bryce.

Yea, retire

So the lack in faith in the QB makes us throw to other players instead of just telling him to throw it up to his best player and hope he makes a play? I don't think it's that, I think it's Canales trying to outsmart the defense who is expecting it to go to T-Mac so he's calling plays to go elsewhere thinking it will fool them.

So you think a player having 6 catches for 73 yards and then a single target in the 3rd quarter is a winning strategy? It's not about my feelings about the player, it's about just terrible play calling and decision making. He's our best offensive player, there is no question about that, there's zero reason for him to get a single target in the 3rd quarter

So basically same recipe as T-Mac's first 100 yard game. Get 70+ in the first half and then try to get cute and only get him 1 target in the 3rd Quarter that should have been called a PI. Throw the ball to you best fuging player, it's not that hard to figure it out

no, you're just flat out wrong on this one, it's a moronic take, sorry but it's a fact.

and that's the only reason he was even able to make a play on the ball, 98% of WRs aren't getting a hand on that ball let alone almost making the catch. If there wasn't a clear PI on the play, then I'm convinced he still makes that catch. And if you don't think a player pulling a WR down by his jersey as he's trying to leap and twist to make the catch is going to affect his ability to make the play, then you're just getting angry because you want to be angry.

Just because a player maybe should have made the catch, doesn't mean it's a drop Having said that, THAT wasn't a play that he should have come down with just because he was able to get 2 hands on it. He got 2 hands on it while leaping and twisting in the air while being pulled back down by the defender at the same time. General rule of thumb, if the catch was made and it would have been one of the highlight plays of the week across the league, then him not making the catch isn't a drop, not hard to understand. Drops are when you don't catch something that you 100% should have made the catch on.

A drop? What game are you watching? He almost made a crazy grab that 1 million percent should have been called PI as the defender was tackling him by the jersey before the ball ever got there

insane to pick up the flag there, that was egregious

lolz Force it into XL when he's go multiple defenders around him and he had T-Mac breaking free on the outside in 1 on 1 coverage. Seriously, what the hell is he seeing back there to not just throw that to the sideline for T-Mac to easily run under for a big gain?!?!?!?!

Wasn't he the one pick we made utilizing the draft picks we got out of the CMC trade other than using the rest to get Bryce? So we traded CMC and Moore for a guy we've already cut and Bryce? Awesome

I think too many Panthers fans are already so used to seeing the amazing catches he's able to make, so they're chalking up the ones he isn't able to make as drops. I could be wrong, but I only remember 2 actual drops (maybe a 3rd) from him all season so far, the rest were just plays he almost made a great play but was unable to, which isn't a drop.

I know exactly how this week is going to go since I'll have T-Mac, Waddle, and Gordon in my fantasy lineup this week. T-Mac gets doubled on every play because we have nobody else to fear and has low stats. Without Hill, now Horn shadows Waddle and takes him out of the game with even worse stats than T-Mac. So they kill us with Achane in the short passing game and they never get into goal line situations so Gordon doesn't get me a TD.

At worst, he'll be great to line up in the slot next to T-Mac and then send him on go-routes as it will keep the safety from helping out against T-Mac

Just because it hasn't worked out for us, doesn't mean it's the wrong type of coach to hire. Most HC's fail in the end, and many of them sooner rather than later. But we fell for a snake oil salesmen in Rhule, then hired someone with a vision and didn't let them draft the QB they wanted and gave him a very quick hook because of it, and then hired someone who maybe had a chance at being decent, but got saddled with busted ass Bryce as his QB. Failed execution doesn't mean it was the wrong idea, don't let past mistakes trick you into a poor decision for your future.

No, Ron only looked liked it worked because of Cam, so when his shoulder got smoked, it all fell apart quickly. He was a GREAT Monday to Saturday coach, his players loved him and would run through a brick wall for him. But he was one of the worst game day coaches I've ever seen, terrible clock management, overall decision making, and a complete inability to adjust mid-game to anything. We always won in spite of Rivera, not because of him, I was calling for us to replace him with McDermott even after we went 15-1, because I felt like we had coaching mistakes all season long, but Cam's magical season bailed him out time and time again. He built a reputation as Riverboat Ron because his job was on the line and he made a handful of decisions that any good coach would have made, not because he was some gambler. Dan Campbell is actually who the NFL media thought Ron Rivera was.

You really can't bench him at this point unless you also don't even dress him. Benching Bryce and then being forced to play him again and him looking even serviceable like last year, would be the absolute worst thing possible, because then it just creates more uncertainty. And once you bench him for Dalton, it's signaling to the rest of the team that you're just throwing in the towel too. This is a really bad situation with no good way out of it this year.

Tepper thinks he knows better than the Morgan's and Canales' of the world. Hence why I'm saying he needs to drop the blank check needed to steal away a SB winning GM, someone he will KNOW he doesn't know more than, and in turn, will be forced to sit back and let them run things how they see fit. Use that big wallet to force yourself to not think you're better than the people you hired.

Ron Rivera That's why you don't go defensive, because if they turn things around like you hope, they're too good of a coach to fire but not bad enough to warrant being fired. Defensive minded HC's usually only work when you have a true elite QB paired with them, so the changing of OC's doesn't hurt as bad, such as the Bills with McDermott and Allen. Since the turn of the Century, the following are the only SB winning HC's who come from a defensive background.... Belichick, Harbaugh, Tomlin, Cowher, and Carroll. So sure, if you're telling me we're going to hire a HOF lock of a HC, then I'm in. But if you don't land a defensive minded HC like that, you're not going to be consistently successful.

I'm still not sure how true that still is. Yes, early on he was VERY hands on and it was well known. But the last 2 years, he hasn't been overt about being hands on, and if anything, it APPEARS like he's finally taken a hands off approach. Now, sure, maybe he's still meddling, but you ALWAYS knew that Snyder was involved, and right now, Panthers fans are just assuming that Tepper still is, but we honestly have no way of knowing.

Well sure, but that's my point. Since you can't do it on the field because of the salary cap, front office and coaching staff is the only way a deep pocket owner can really give his team an advantage that other teams don't have. Which is why Tepper being an idiot is the problem, and why if he pays the money needed to steal a true elite level GM, he'd be forced to remove himself, as I'm quite sure that would be a stipulation for said GM to consider taking the job.

That's all fair too. I'm just saying that if you have success with a defensive minded HC, you're much more likely to have some down years because of offensive scheme changes than you would be the other way around. Teams can change defensive schemes and still have success year to year MUCH easier than offensively.