tukafan21

If we draft Stroud, I wouldn't be surprised to see Shaq switch to 0 He worth 7 in college, which is why he went back to it a couple years ago, and I'm sure if we draft Stroud, he'd be okay in giving up his number for new franchise QB, so I could see him going to 0 to keep a single digit number.

LOL the "mother who allowed it" is my favorite part. My best friend's last name is Imhoff and his whole life he said he was going to name his son Jack. All our friends thought it would be funny but obviously we all agreed, no woman who would have a child with him would ever allow it. His wife is about to give birth to their first child, a son, any day now and they clearly aren't naming him Jack. But my favorite part about this was that they got married last year and we were out there (he moved across the country) for a week for the wedding. One night while out to dinner with everyone, this topic came up and his wife's mother thought it was hilarious and then was telling him that if they named the kid John, we could still call him Jack since that's a nickname for John. The fact that her mom was trying to find a way to name the kid Jack Imhoff was just outstanding, needless to say it was one of the funnier moments of the wedding week.

Seriously man, your posts are just getting dumber and dumber. Your proposal here would then mean we gave up 3 firsts, 2 seconds, and DJ Moore for the right to give a $50 million per year fully guaranteed contract to an injury prone QB whose best days are already behind him, instead of saving 2 of those firsts and getting a rookie QB contract. And yes, I know we'd end up with Anderson as well, but logic is seriously missing from your posts on this topic.

It's going to be a very popular number I think, a ton of players will want it as motivation, saying "nobody said I could make it" just like the NBA players have done. I also think it could be a popular number for RBs or WRs who get picked early in the second round as well, saying that 0 teams thought they were worth a first round pick and it's their motivation to prove them wrong.

I think this is very misleading in how they're saying it. They're very much openly talking to each other about the things they see in the QB's, what they think is good, bad, can be improved upon and how, what could be issues with them, etc. They need to have those discussions to properly evaluate them, as one person might see something that someone else doesn't, or someone has an idea how to fix something that someone else could not see. And in those discussions, I'm sure it's quite clear to each of them who the other coaches prefer in their evaluations. Saying they won't have them put out a single name until then is one thing, but they all know who they each like.

Again, never said he's about to have his best years. His 3 year contract has cap hits each year of 3, 10, and 8, where his last 4 years he made 14, 10, 11, and 14. We're not paying for peak Thielen and not expecting him to have his best years. Last year Thielen had 70 catches (45 first downs), 716 yards, and 6 TDs, he's not much of a downfield WR anymore, but he also was never a player who succeeded because of his athleticism, he did it on his knowledge of the game and perfect technique. He's going to be more of Greg Olsen to Cam for the Rookie than Hurst will be, he will be the ultimate 5-10 yard safety valve option for him. You make it seem like wanting to pay WR 2 money to Thielen who has less of an injury history than Lamar, even at his older age, but not wanting to pay the obscene cost to get and then sign Lamar as mutually exclusive things. If you can't see the difference in a slow decline of a WR that you're going to ask to be your Slot and the risk of the combination of trade/contract/injury history of Lamar, then I don't know what to say. Just the fact that you can't see that and think people are laughing at my arguments and not yours, is picture perfect irony in itself.

Oh, and no, Thielen wasn't signed for his upside, he was signed for what he can do immediately for this team and what we paid him is what it took to get him. As soon as we made the trade, Thielen was my #1 want in Free Agency, hands down. It was a weak WR class so we really weren't going to get a true #1 WR anyways, and Thielen is an ultimate pro who runs great routes, has outstanding hands, and is a red zone monster because his specialty is 10 yard routes. Short of a legit stud #1 WR, which we couldn't get, Thielen is the exactly perfect WR to sign when you're going to be starting a rookie QB from day 1. So no, we didn't pay him for his past, we paid him for what he's going to do for us right now and in the future, and that's be the best friend of a Rookie QB, the ultimate check down pass catcher.

lol no kidding, saying I sound crazy for not wanting to pay someone for past accomplishments is.... well, interesting. Clearly the majority of the league feels this way, as well as the Ravens, or else something would have happened by now. They don't view him as a player who should re-set the QB market, particularly in a year that is likely to see Burrow and Herbert sign new deals, two players with significantly higher upside than Lamar (and no, it's not a white vs black thing, so don't go there). Each of them already played better than Lamar the last 2 years and their game isn't predicated on their running ability while already not able to finish those last two years as well. Nobody is questioning what Lamar has done in the past and not saying he isn't worth the risk of having him as your QB right now as if healthy, he clearly is a difference maker. But to give up multiple first round picks (and possibly more) to then have to make him the highest paid QB in the league on a guaranteed contract, is a massive risk given his style of game and recent injury history. Say he ends up playing this year on the franchise tag and gets hurt yet again and it costs the Ravens either making the playoffs or ability to win in them. Would you then give him a $45-50 million a year deal that is fully guaranteed for over 3 years? Would you give up the draft picks on top of that to then give him the contact? Of course not and teams recognize that, as do the Ravens. I think this ends with him not getting the contract he wants after a trade or playing the year on the franchise tag with the stipulation that he can't be tagged again. Because if he really made this request 3 weeks ago and someone was willing to pay that cost, a deal would have been done by now.

What’s that? That I am able to use my brain and separate past team success with future individual performance based on their skills and ability to stay healthy? Because last I checked, that’s all that matters, not what did you do for a different team in the past, but what you can do for your current/new team in the future.

Yea, with one of the better coaches in the league in Harbaugh. I don’t care what his teams have done in the past, I’m looking at his future as a QB and I don’t think it’s that bright or will be that long. Just that he’s not signed by the Ravens yet also tells me they think that as well, or else they’d have given him what he wanted by now, and they know him better than anyone else.

His career high is 3,100 passing yards and last year before getting hurt was only averaging 186 yards a game. Yes, I know he has his rushing yards, but my point is that part of his game going to decline fast and/or he's going to keep missing time from the hits piling up, like with Cam. He had a better TE than Pitts with Andrews, not like I'm afraid of Lamar all of a sudden being unstoppable because he has Pitts. He might make them a tough team to beat for a year or two when he's playing, but it would overall hurt their franchise moving forward. If Lamar ends up outside of Baltimore, in a few years it will be looked back upon as a worse trade and new contract than Russell Wilson and the Broncos wherever he ends up, so I'd love to see it with a division rival. He's a worse passer than Cam with a body not even close to Cam's in regards to being built to withstand hits over the years. Thinking Lamar's career is going to go uphill when Cam's started to go downhill is just asinine

Oh yea, he made $23 million last year on the 5th year option and would be set to earn $32 million this year on the franchise tag, or a total of $55 million for the two years. He supposedly turned down $133 million fully guaranteed over 3 years before last season. Had he signed that deal, after this year (assuming he plays on the tag for arguments sake) would have already made $88 million and then would have a decision to make. Try and work out a new contract after the season or play one more year for another $44 million and then become a Free Agent, likely without being able to be tagged as he would have had that in the extension I'd guess. Having an agent would have been able to make him realize this, but sure guy, convince yourself that acting as your own agent is smart because you turned down a monster deal.

I would LOVE it if he landed in Atlanta Wherever he goes, they're going to have to give up multiple first round picks and then will be hampered with a monster contract to a player who can't stay healthy and isn't a good enough passer to succeed in the NFL as his legs/body wear down and can't run as much. Please let him bring that disaster scenario to the Falcons

He messed it up by not taking the big 3 year extension they offered him before last season. It would have made him one of the highest paid players in the league and he'd already be looking at another extension after this upcoming season. He also could have had it put into that deal that he couldn't be franchised tagged, so he'd be just 1 more year away from being a true free agent and could do whatever he wanted at that point.

We already have Brown and signed a 3-4 DT in free agency, I can't envision a scenario where we take a DT in the 2nd this year

I’d take less of an instant impact in year 1 to get a potential #1 WR to pair as rookies with the QB and have them grow together. We don’t have a first next year and it’s easier to find a top pass rusher in free agency than a top WR, if Flowers is there you gotta take him and make DE priority one next year with all that cap room.

Yup I was very against trading up to #1 this year because I didn't think either was a can't miss prospect (let's be real, if one was, the Bears are trading Fields and not the pick) and thought we'd have to give up too much to get it (which we did). But that ship has sailed and now we're here, which is why I'm going with Stroud because I think he has a higher floor due to Young's size and increased risk of injury. If we landed on the top pick originally, and kept all the other picks and DJ, then I'd be more open to taking Young and that risk, but not after what we gave up. Worst case scenario, Stroud is a serviceable middle of the road QB. Worse case scenario, Young can't stay healthy and doesn't even get the 5th year option picked up because of it.

I'd say it's the other way around. The staff is either comfortable enough with his size (not height, but overall frame) or they're not. Stroud has until the draft to convince them he's good enough to not take the risk on Young's size. I don't think there is anything more Young can do to convince them as the choice of taking or passing on him will always come down to risk willingness. As many including myself have said, Young's size is a deciding factor in the end because of how close they are as prospects aside from their size and that if the gap between them was larger, then you take the chance on Young's size. So it's more about Stroud proving he really is at least equal to Young as a prospect to make taking him the right choice, which I think it is.

Need more of a power rusher to combine with opposite of that in Burns. Can flip them around at times and make the OT's have to deal with speed on one play and power on the next.

Totally forgot that these were in a different folder of images, absolutely should have been in my initial post of favorite cards. The first few years of this Game of Inches set I put the base version together (then after a few years it got cost prohibitive and I stopped, not even sure if they still make it). But would also pick up some of the 1/1 versions if I could too, have a Devonta Freeman, Donte Moncrief, and Tevin Coleman 1/1's, but then I also was able to snag the 1/1 versions of these guys, not sure if you've heard of them or not.................

haha yea the two of us did not like each other very much But I don't think it was due to us having any issue with the other person as much as we both kept screwing each other over and creating a false Stewart market and drove up prices on each of us like crazy.

Ahhh, I remember that Luke PC Not sure the other part was about me though as nothing there rings a bell to me. Maybe I've just forgotten though lol But now that I think about it, I do feel like I remember the Biakabutuka's didn't come to me in a normal way, that someone put me in contact with the guy. So maybe you did that, but don't think it was because I had beef with someone on eBay, but who knows.

Only gonna add in a select handful of favorites to not overload the thread lol Biakabutuka Flair Showcase Masterpiece 1/1... basically the holy grail of PC cards for me regardless of value, don't even remember how or where I stumbled across a guy with a bunch of Biakabutuka 1/1's years back. Was able to get this one and a couple of others off of him in a deal. Gotta include the Biakabutuka Green PMG /15 here too since PMGs are all the rave these days, also have the Red /150 as well of course These 2011 Crown Silhouettes are still maybe my favorite set ever made, hit this one myself, and then actually hit a second one later as well. Hit a few good Cam rookie autos myself, that was the year I had just got back into collecting too, including a really nice Gold Standard Patch/Auto The auto'd Stewart was /5 and I have 3 of the 5 of them, easily one of my favorite cards in my whole PC Have I think close to 40 Stew 1/1's so will only put one in here and I always LOVED the prizm finites so will go with this one (also have the non auto and the orange pylon parallel 1/1's from that year). Have a few good rookie 1/1's too, including the Exquisite auto and Limited Shield/Auto Gotta have a TD Rookie 1/1 in here, right? Can't put a TD 1/1 in here without putting his partner in crime as well, this is a Chrome Mini Superfractor 1/1 People are gonna poopoo on me for including a Funchess 1/1 here, but this one holds special meaning. He went to my rival high school (albeit years after me) and is by far the best player to come out of my hometown in any sport, and then got drafted by my team. So pretty cool for me to pickup the Michigan Flag 1/1 auto of his, closest thing I'll ever get to a hometown card of his. I also got to meet him after his rookie year and got a picture with him, then got it signed a year or two later and inscribed about being from our hometown to Carolina. A couple Quad team autos And of course can't finish this post off without a 1/1 from the GOAT.......

Wow that's a nice Burns PC right there I haven't bought any Panthers cards in years, shifted from collecting sports cards to Star Wars cards maybe 4 or 5 years ago and then have since shifted to Marvel cards now, mostly Sketches. Let me go pull down some pictures of a few of my favorite Panther cards though and I'll post them here. I have the best Lotulelei collection in the world, have every non 1/1 made of his and then almost all the non plate 1/1's as well, including the two best, the Chrome and NT RC 1/1's. My J-Stew collection is pretty nasty too, at one point it might have been the best Stew PC around, but been out of the game so long, who knows now lol.

Sure as hell not coffee with mayo in it