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Anyone Seen the ESPN Projection Guide? *Spoiler* Panthers Suck
tukafan21 replied to 45catfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Without looking at it and really only going off seeing your post, odds are their projections had something like 3.4 TDs for Bryce and 0.3 for Dalton, which when you round separately go to 3 and 0, but when you combine them, it then gets rounded up to 4. -
We better not be, trading for a franchise tagged player almost always ends up being 1st rounder plus more. Under no circumstances is that an acceptable trade to then give a Top 5 contract to someone who is more like a 15th-ish best WR in the league.
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I haven't bothered to look into it for 2 reasons, but I'm not so sure his contract would be bonkers for a team that trades for him. Because the new team doesn't pick up the signing bonus portion or the cap hits that come from that, so depending how SF structured the deal, there is always a chance that it's actually not a bad contract for a team to trade for. But the two reasons that doesn't matter is because if SF is actually willing to trade him, to me, that screams they're concerned about his recovery from the injury and would make me not want him based on that alone. And the second is that if his injury recovery is fine, then in the end, they're not going to trade him anyways, so it's all moot to begin with.
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We already have him, his name is Adam Thielen. People need to stop thinking about every single player in a vacuum and look at how said player would compliment our existing roster and add something to it. I've been a big fan of Kupp throughout his career, would have loved him in the past, but right now, given his injury issues, age, and already having Thielen, he just makes no sense to go after.
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What about signing someone like say Gus Edwards who should be really cheap and would provide a useful role as the guy who gets all our and 1 or less carries since we can't sneak it with Bryce? I think having a vet in that role would be worth the money he costs over a 5th round rookie in that role on the cheap, he'd make a nice compliment to Hubbard.
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Might be a weird answer, but I'd have interest if Canales has interest. Basically, if Canales thinks he can use a FB, then yea, I'd 100% be interested as he's still got a lot left in the tank. But if he just doesn't see a big enough role for the position for the offense he wants to run, then it would be a waste of cap space.
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If we're signing a WR who won't be a #1, it needs to be one of those fast twitch speed guys, not someone who is basically a duplicate of a player we already have on the squad. It's the same reason I said I'd have been in on a DK trade, but if we did, then we needed to trade XL away afterwards, too similar of players/roles Duplicating players/roles just doesn't make sense on a team with as many holes as we have, poor use of cap room. Kupp doesn't make us a contender, rather build out with players who are 1 year rentals or could be part of our future and still with us 5 years from now, not a 2-3 year oft injured rental. If we sign Kupp, I'd then be wanting us to trade Thielen to a desperate contender for a mid round pick (the problem with that, is that team would likely just want to sign Kupp, and Kupp would likely want to go to them over us anyways).
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So what is your draft strategy after today?
tukafan21 replied to Panthero's topic in Carolina Panthers
Mine has never changed, T-Mac no matter what. I also just don't get the love affair with Walker, especially at 8. He's more MLB than Edge right now and he's no Kuechly. He's not going to make an immediate significant pass rush improvement in year 1, if he's going to turn into an elite edge rusher, it's going to take him a few years to bulk up and just play more (he basically only has 1 year of playing time in college). He's a low floor, high ceiling, raw prospect, which I'm not against taking in general, but I'd like them to have more of a true position, or at least, be more of an Edge than a MLB, not the other way around. -
oh wow, hadn't seen that, honestly not sure how I'd feel about it. Not a fan of trading for someone who had a bad midseason knee injury, he tore both his ACL and MCL, he might not even be 100% at any point this next season. Which means we'd basically be making a trade for the future for a player who would only be under contract for 3 years after that. I'd rather have overpaid for DK who would have had a bigger immediate impact. Really would come down to what the 49ers would want and how his contract breaks down in the future, if it wouldn't be bad cap hits because the 49ers had to eat the signing bonus, it would make him more attractive to me, but the torn up knee is still going to be in the back of my mind.
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Aiyuk on his way out the door?!?!?! Huh? I know he got hurt last year, but they just signed him to a huge deal, are there rumors of them trying to already trade him?
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Why? Don't get me wrong, I've always been a Kupp fan, but he'll turn 32 before training camp, hasn't been able to stay healthy, and plays the same role that Thielen already plays for us and who already has a rapport with Bryce. Because of that, he doesn't really add anything new to the team unless we were planning on trading/cutting Thielen. But since neither would be long term solutions at the position anyways, I'd rather just stick it out with Thielen for his last year under contract given Bryce's comfort level with him already. This is a make or break year for Bryce, I think that comfort level with someone who hasn't had the injury issues that Kupp has had is better for us this year than Kupp would be as a replacement for him.
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Without digging into who they might have signed today, I know the Jets lost DJ Reed today. If they don't replace him, I could very well see them look to drafting Johnson to pair with Sauce, especially as their new HC is a former CB himself
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Nope We're either extending or trading/cutting Bryce next offseason, I would be shocked if it's anything other than one of those two things. If he doesn't have a breakout, there is no way in a QB heavy draft we can just run things back again, he has to be replaced. If he does breakout, there's no way we let him have a 2nd breakout season on top of it and end up forcing us to pay him even more the following offseason. It's always better to extend your QB earlier than later, as every new QB deal re-sets the market, so waiting would just cost us more cap room in the end.
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This had to be the most uneventful first hour of FA I can ever remember, no big surprises, no monster contracts given out, boring
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What we really should want is for the Patriots to strike out at finding an LT. If they’re able to sign a legit LT, it opens them up to draft BPA, but if they can’t, they’ll all but be forced to draft one there, which means one less player from our board will be drafted before we’re on the clock
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The two of them couldn’t be any more different of players, literally the only thing about them that is remotely similar is that they are tall, that’s it
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If the Vikings are legitimately interested in Rodgers, it tells me that the team has real concerns about McCarthy being ready for the start of the season. Re-signing Darnold just doesn't make sense for Darnold, even if he knows McCarthy won't be ready to start the season, as the Vikings wouldn't be signing him to a long term deal, which he can get this year, no reason to take another 1 year deal just to hope he plays well enough again to get it next year. If the Vikings still believe in McCarthy but that he won't be ready for the start of the season, going with someone like Daniel Jones wouldn't really make a ton of sense either, not if they still want to compete for the division. So yea, someone like Rodgers, who likely only has 1 year left anyways and already said he is open to mentoring a young QB, makes a ton of sense.
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Mike Garafolo: Panthers are in on DK Metcalf trade
tukafan21 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Love the player, hate him being 29 and coming off another injury. Realistically he has 1-2 years of great play left in him, just doesn't fit with where we are at right now, our best case of getting into contention wouldn't happen until after he's no longer a great WR. If he was even 2 years younger, I'd be all for it, but that age plus injury, just doesn't seem like the right move for us right now. -
The contracts have absolutely nothing to do with tickets, merchandise, concessions, etc. This isn't MLB where teams need to make more money to pay the absurd contracts some teams give out, it's a hard cap league that is dictated by the leagues revenue, namely the TV contracts. Increases in costs are from a combined factors of inflation and greed, which yes, it does cause some to lose interest, but it has nothing to do with the ever increasing massive contracts.
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Hell no... saying Pickens is a headcase is beyond an understatement, zero interest in bringing those type of players into the franchise right now, we're still working on re-setting the culture and locker room, no place for guys like him, talent aside.
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Actually very surprised by this, really figured he'd just end up following Rodgers wherever he went, makes me wonder if this means Rodgers is going to end up retiring and he's already told Adams
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Teams can't talk to upcoming Free Agents because of expiring contracts, but they are allowed to talk to, and maybe even already sign, players who are free agents because they got cut by other teams.
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And again, as I've said multiple times, the elite of the elite OL, like Thuney, are able to play into their mid to late 30's these days, because even as they get a step slower, they're good enough through all the other facets of their game to make up for it. But you just want to ignore that because of "the odds." He also had another year left on his deal, which if I'm KC, if the best I can get is a 4th rounder 2 years from now, I'm just keeping him for the final year and letting him go in FA the next offseason to then pick up a comp pick that could even end up being a 3rd rounder in that same 2026 draft anyways. And you say he's a 33 year old with a big contract, but he actually had a very reasonable cap hit next year of only $16 million it looks like, which for a player of his caliber, is more than worth it and not something they could replace with comparable game play, the guy was literally a 1st team all pro this past season. If you staunchly believe he's going to fall off a cliff next year, that's different, but this guy was just voted the team MVP by the Chiefs players, on a team with Mahomes, Chris Jones, and Kelce, while having the highest pass block rate of any lineman in the league over the last 2 seasons. There's been nothing about him that says he's about to fall off a cliff, you're saying this is a stroke of genius based on the expected decline of OL in their 30's, something Thuney is more likely than not, to avoid in the manner you're referring to it. As even if he falls off a tiny bit, he's still producing at a level above a $16M cap hit next year.
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Again, less about moving on from him and more about what they got in return to move on from him. I have to imagine some team out there in a win now mode would have given up better than a 2026 4th rounder for him if one of their only holes was on the OL. When you combine it with them losing a 1st team all pro at a position they were already weak on this past year, then yea, it's just a really weird trade to me, and nothing close to the master stroke of a move you seem to think it is.