Bear Hands

Yep, it's entirely prospect driven. If they see a guy they love, by all means. Moore, Mendoza, Mateer, etc. but we may not end up liking what those guys give us. Could be Styles/Allen (LB), Faulk (ED), Tyson (WR), Lomu (OT), etc. and we wait while the team keeps getting better.

Drake Maye has been a revelation. Crazy to think the MVP race includes Drake Maye, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, & Matt Stafford right now. Allen & Mahomes are always there by default, but those 4 - it's hard to say it doesn't sting. Maye being a lifelong Panthers fan, (2) ex-Panthers QBs, and one a guy we tried to trade for lol

Totally. They had a guy starred on their boards that made it in trade worthy range. The risk was totally worth it. Our case was the classic of a franchise not having a QB, do what you can to get one. That often results being thrust into a bad situation, putting crazy pressure on 1 guy, and it becomes even worse when he's not that great. But if we find ourselves just a few spots behind a guy we really like, I don't see a problem. We just have to see how the season shakes out and enjoy this roller coaster. It's not pretty at times but we somehow are 5-4 haha. If Bryce turns a page and cranks out some truly QB driven wins, then maybe we do consider just rolling with him and a Dalton replacement in 2026. Someone like a Jarrett Stidham/Tanner McKee. However, if he stays mostly the same (whether we fall apart or he struggles on/off but we still win some), I think you have to leave to door open for a QB in the draft. Scout and meet with the top ones, see if any really fit what D&D want. Maybe that guy could be Mateer. Who knows

I've seen the comp a few times, and I feel there is a lot to it. Our situation is a lot like Kansas City was pre-Mahomes (without the HOF HC) Whether you like them or not, D&D are building something here. They had a strong draft. The team is slowly coming together, developing some identity, and has some decent blue chip parts. Brown, Horn, McMillan, and a good OL situation that we should keep fortifying every year. It's not much yet, but growing. Bryce is in that Alex Smith spot. A top draft pick, has never been overly impressive, but you can win games when he's safe with the ball. You're not winning because of him - maybe once in a blue moon. From time to time he's shown the ability to orchestrate some plays and lead drives. I just don't see anything that is like - "oh snap, yeah don't let him go, he's ours". He'll make a solid/good throw every now and again, but man, it is a struggle a lot of the time to watch. Some terrible performances to speak of, heck he's already been benched once during year 2. He should in no way preclude you from flirting with what else is out there. This is not a marriage. If you're in position (or trade range) for a guy you REALLY like come draft day, you shoot your shot. If we are in the draft process, and suddenly realize QB3-4 is a guy we really like, that's when you make a modest jump from like 16 to 11 or something like that. Just like the Bills did for Allen, like the Chiefs did for Mahomes. This is nothing magical that plants this franchise savior title on them, this is not some stupid trade-- it's an easy trade up to get a guy you like w/a big ceiling. It's all player dependent and coaching/development driven. If we don't like a QB, by all means fortify the front-7, get an awesome OLB or ILB prospect. But we're on year 3, you kind of know what you're getting at this point. Mostly sub-200 yard performances, low YPA, bad technique, poor mechanics, some decent stuff sprinkled in, but some bad turnover heavy ones that kill the team's momentum. Again, run with him if there's no complete disaster that happens the remainder of the season, but don't close the door on something better just because of the investment or debatable performances.

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I think it’s because they’re fans who want better than they’re getting. Pretty basic concept. The “casual” thing isn’t going to happen. Stop trying to make it happen

It's been requested ad nauseam, you get it. Here's the thread to add to the threads.

Sherwood, MDIV and JJJ would all be targets for us

I mean, with the amount of picks they've received, maybe the next guy won't take as much haha

Dan, call the Jets for Sherwood plz.

NFL trade deadline is more like an NBA one this year. Jeeez

Jets have the ammo for their next bust at QB lol

Holy sh*t - 2 firsts and AD Mitchell??

Steichen has the offense operating at a super high efficiency with JT/Pittman/Warren/Downs. The OL is strong.The D - the front 7 has been sneaky good. They don't instill much fear but do enough. Buckner is stil playing at a high level. It's a good system on both sides of the ball. Blue chip players now at every position group. Overall, the NFL is wide open right now. Seahawks, Colts, Patriots, Rams, & Bills are at the top of the mid-season hill - which is just wild Lions, Bucs, Broncos, Chargers* are in contention/okay spots (LAC is losing guys left and right though) Chiefs, Philly still linger, you can never discount. Steelers, 49ers are around as always.

Colts are going ALL IN.

Shaheed to the Seahawks

It was more the quickness and abruptness of his turnovers. It felt so winnable if he wasn't crapping the bed early.

I'm just saying we lose this, I think the fanbase would understand the level we're at for the time being with this crew in tow. If we win, there's a higher ceiling than initially (near universally) thought. I'm basically comparing a an almost/just above 500 record 8-9/9-8 and no playoffs vs a 5-7 win team expectations.

The pattern of how it happened is what's also a whirlwind: Looking atrocious against the Cards and Jags, cleaning out ATL with a shutout, getting throttled by the Pats, a comeback win vs the Dolphins, beating the Cowboys with a strong team game, squeaking an ugly one vs. NYJ, getting throttled by the Bills, and then beating a SB fave. Quite the ride so far.

So if we beat Tyler Shough's Saints...6-4 If we lose to Tyler Shough's Saints...back to earth (again) The results of this game will swing the narrative for the rest of the season. The 2 Saints games are the only remaining I see us favorited in. Maybe ATL, but that's away.

This was his revenge game!

Step one is to just run it out this year. See what happens using him as the guy. See if we can ever get a passing game going with running so effectively w/Dowdle. He'll be 28 next year and we're talking RB. It's easy to get sucked into this, and get all excited and emotional, but I just can't agree with paying a FA RB. Javonte and Dobbins are in very similar situations on 1 year deals, and both a year or more younger than Rico. Ride it out, see if we can bring him back on a modest deal. If not, no problem. Don't rope in the moon for him.

Our defense is proving they're able to win us games. Our running game is proving they're able to win us games. But we're still not scoring points. So we're gonna hit a few snags and I anticipate some unexpected duds.

It felt more like that time we had to bring Weinke back from the grave and beat ATL like 9-7