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Similar takeaways. I think there's cold water being dumped on any receiving targets WR/TE in R1/2. Now, if someone like Noel or Bech lasts to 57, that could be a fun choice, but I'm beginning to expect mid-to-later WR/RB/TE adds...seems primed for defense or trenches with first 2-3 picks.

Some teams meet these kids off the radar, after events, or in unreported meetings and know they're awesome. We don't really know who or how long some of them have been vetted. And that goes back to the college season, after/before games. Back when, I remember listening to an ex-GM on a pod about how he used T30 on guys that look solid on tape but want to make sure they're not a nutjob. after hearing rumors. So they butter them up, take them out, see how they are with their guard down.

I do think we're in a perfect spot for a Jeanty trade up partner. He's not making it past Chicago so if someone wants him and he's there at 8, we may get a few calls.

Membou may be the front runner OL for some teams based on the measurements. Per Brugler, it seems split - some scouting teams think Campbell is a guard, others think he should have no problem on the outside. Vrabel likes his big dudes...so some of the more stickler teams could view Membou (and even Banks) ahead of Campbell. Pats, Jags, Jets all have OL needs ahead of us...

There's a multitude of reasons why teams have T30s.

It's a near certainty at least one of Tet WR, Graham DT, Walker LB, Johnson CB will be available, just on pure numbers/picks. Ward, Hunter, Carter, & OL1 are gone, that's 4. Just 3 more teams and then us. And hell, someone may pop for Jeanty and/or Shedeur/Dart. There's not 1 pure edge talent worth reaching after Carter, especially when you get immense value add with these guys that can play immediately and opponents need to account for. Mykel and Stewart are very risky and fit the bust mold more than anyone else in this draft. The Bucs OL won't give 2 flying fs about Mykel or Shemar on passing downs. Heck, we'd probably be playing Wonnum and Clowney over both on passing downs anyways.

They're definitely in our sights with Amos & Porter being two of our more notable T30 visits.

I know people would like to see it, but I haven't seen the twinkle in Dan or Dave's eyes when they've been asked about him. Dan has really been showing a giddy energy when talking about the secondary and big guys up front. Which points to these two and Will Johnson. With Jalon Walker hopefully a target as well. Not a lot of Barron buzz. I'm also not buying any team thinks the safeties are worth a top-15 pick and we just seem to have no buzz around Tet or Warren.

Tony Pauline who has had good scoops in the past reported within the last month we 'love' Johnson...along with Walker & Mykel more recently. If we aren't looking at passing targets as much as people may want them (I haven't seen much smoke around Tet or Warren), we may be looking at Will Johnson (or) Jalon Walker. Mykel Williams/Shemar Stewart being backup plans if we can trade down.

OP is updated. Also re-sorted to have more prominent at the top.

They gather rankings from both inside & outside their org and pull it all together. First big updated post-combine and all. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6203610/2025/03/17/nfl-draft-2025-consensus-big-board-armand-membou/ Snip: Highlighting potential targets that have been either rumored or often mocked for us.

Charlie Campbell and another had linked the Stewart stuff. You’re right though, there’s more than a few saying we “love” Mykel. Just seems like we’re off to showing our cards again.

Shemar I can get. He's tested super well on top of having some great tuff on tape. He's just not converting sacks. If a coach feels like they can get him finer-tuned in that regard, then he should be on board. Mykel however just doesn't have the athleticism you want, and you can't teach burst. You just can't. He doesn't play as quickly as you'd expect and he just straight up looked like mid-talent for a bulk of the season for UGA.

Per Tony Pauline: I was told yesterday they (Panthers) really like him (Mykel Williams) a lot. I doubt Jalon Walker is going to be there. I haven't heard the Panthers being on Tyler Warren at this time. https://x.com/PanthersOnTap/status/1900285136748335137 Trying to find some advantages: 6'5 260, 34"+ arms, only 21 years old Quality run defense. Not elite, but it's up there Ceiling is pretty high - sculpt-able if the coaches want him Good speed & power combo Disadvantages: Behind developmentally as a pass rusher Poor burst - even though he has the size, the athleticism isn't really there you'd expect to see No good counters or real PR gameplan, just an aggressive type with no real plan May be better suited in a 4-3 Gets caught sloppy in the upper body, and gets thrown off easily Looked lost at times when he was stifled by OLs Had a few nagging injuries this past year Simply disappeared for long stretches with UGA This is not a top-10 draft prospect. But if actualizes and we grab him, with some success, I'll gladly eat crow. Could be an okay complimentary EDGE talent, but isn't a top guy for a team even if he hits his ceiling.

Reporters have kept hinting our love for those two and it's continuing this week. It's honestly a concern for me. Why? Well, I think it's safe to say (4) guys in Ward, Carter, Hunter, & at least 1 OL are gone by our pick. That leaves (3) more picks before ours with a group of (6) guys in Graham DT, OL2, Jeanty RB, McMillan WR, Johnson CB, & Warren TE. This is not even counting if someone reaches for Shedeur or what seems like the fan fave choice in Walker. That's near the end of what I'd define as sure-thing, higher end R1 talent. So, the short of it is that a clear Round 1 talent will be available at 8. Thing is, I can't help but sense an XL situation is happening again and we are completely locked in on grabbing a specific guy/role, no matter who falls. They even locked in the interior via FA to pigeon this situation. BPA is going out the window a bit. Can anyone shake this growing sentiment, or are we looking at the same situation as last year? I don't know, but even if Graham or McMillan fall, I'm really getting the sense we're just locked in on these two developmental EDGE guys with poor pass rushing skills and we'll have to stomach taking them over potential trade-downs and some straight up more impactful talent. Talk me out of this concern. Thanks

It’s very similar to the type of rumors with XL last year. We can’t seem to hide it. We’re locked in on the developmental big edge rushers and getting one. Wouldnt surprise me if Morgan was so locked in he picks them over an available Graham, McMillan, or Johnson

We’re getting Mykel or Shemar accept it. Morgan’s mind is made up.

He’s the one guy in the draft I don’t want, so we’ll probably end up getting him. He was wildly wildly ineffective at times and has no pass rush plan or nuance to his game. At least others with low stats showed for it upon further review, but Mykel is bad eye test and microscope and screams bust to me. And it’s not like he’s elite against the run, he’s very good against the run. But so should most DLs in the 1st round.

Only elite WRs are making 25 mil plus, 1Bs and really impactful contributors can be found throughout the draft Their value for what it takes compared to what Tee will want is night and day. He’s trying to get max value right now, and honestly, it’s not worth it for a guy that gets banged up every year and has lingering issues all the time.

I’m sure we’ll hear Michael Pittman next

Between this and Tee, we’re definitely making calls.

It’s all a huge wildcard now. Titans seem primed to take Ward but then it’s anyone’s guess. Cleveland’s starter is Kenny Pickett which is a problem…and they just paid Garrett. There’s not a ton of Hunter smoke and Shedeur is not going this high. Do they just take Carter? Trade down? They’re in a quagmire. I see 4 likely off the board: Ward, Carter, 1OL, & Hunter But then..Jeanty? McMillan? (Both have Raiders smoke), OL2, Johnson, Sanders, Graham, Walker, Warren? I think we’re still looking at a top guy, I’m leaning Johnson or Walker. Just hope we don’t turn and say, “it doesn’t matter just get that edge rusher we want (Pearce/Stewart/Mykel/etc)

As a former San Diegan I should have repped better…it’s South Dakota State University.

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