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Houston was about the worst team in 2022 (Bears also had 3 wins). Detroit was likely the worst team from 2019-2021 with 11 wins total. 2 years after 3 win seasons, both teams were playoff teams and look to be playoff contenders for a while. Both of them had solid drafts during their low periods. They also got rid of people for picks during that period to make it easier to draft well. We did the opposite and traded away good picks so 2 years is likely 3 for us but unless Brooks really is amazing, our 2024 draft isn’t cutting it for great drafting. We need legit great drafting. We need a Myles Garrett or a CJ Stroud with our top pick in 2025.

Oh, I know that but there was a whole lot of hopium getting smoked in here after the Raiders game. I enjoyed the win but I’m still pretty certain we’ll finish close to where we did last year.

Yep. Bloom is off that rose. Dalton is not a QB that can take this franchise to the playoffs. Dalton is still Dalton.

Awful. Safety was watching it the whole time and Mingo didn’t even appear to look the right way. SMH. The amount of draft picks we’ve just literally wasted the past few years is unbelievable.

He really did. It’s truly amazing and we see evidence of his failures in every game we watch.

Shame we won’t own our own second at pick 33. SMH.

It’s the Fitterer bowl. It’s basically the Panthers (team he built) versus the Bears (where he sent our trash). It’s funny that we would would take each individual piece of that trade over Young now: 2023 pick 9, 2023 2nd rounder, 2024 pick 1, DJ Moore and 2025 pick 33. Somehow we traded it all. SMH.

Had a feeling this would be a get right game for Williams.

Miss Jackson, if you’re nasty.

Yep, that’s what I said. If he suddenly becomes Julius Peppers that would be nice. We have nobody at edge right now. I’d expect a 26 year old that we used a 3rd and 4th on would be developed. It amazes me how low our expectations are right now that a guy with 1 TFL and 1 QB hit and a half sack in 4 games is a feel good story. We need more than a feel good story. I’d bet there is at least one bench edge player on the other 31 teams that could step in and start for us right now. DJ Johnson is tied for 189th place in sacks with a half sack. That’s basically 6 guys for every team with a sack. I don’t know why, but it annoys me when guys get lauded for below average play with no real impact. Our OL is having a huge impact, as is Dalton, but DJ is far from impact and hopefully gets replaced in the draft.

This is why:

Shefter said that yesterday, that he wasn’t going to sign with us after this season. Morgan should be talking to him and seeing if an extension is off the table. If it is, trade him for whatever you can get.

DJ is 26 years old in a couple weeks. He should be developed already. He’ll be 29 in the first year of his second contract. I don’t know why we keep drafting projects that are already older. Burns is in his 6th year in the league and he’s only 6 months older than DJ.

In what world are you living. The first 1st would have just been made in the 2024 draft and we’d have two 1sts in the upcoming 2025 draft. The 2nd was pick 36 in the 2023 draft, so we’d have already used two of the three picks. 4 to 5 years out? It wasn’t part of the conversation because it wasn’t reality. I kept saying that people who argued against it didn’t get that we’d get two solid starters with the money we saved (Hunt and Lewis) plus be one good GM away from also getting 3 rookie starters, any of whom might be better than Burns by himself. I was 100% right and everyone who argued against the trade was 100% wrong, period. It was an awful trade to not make. Fitterer fuged up, simple as that. We made the Burns trade one 2-14 year later and turned a 2024 1st and 2025 1st into a 2024 5th and 2025 5th. The biggest fug up by Fitterer was not using the Burns trade as our feeder into a rookie QB. Making the Rams Burns trade would have basically made the mistake of Young not devastating to our talent. Fitterer doubled down and lost both.

There are guys like him in every draft. Guys like Dell and Downs. Just because we can’t draft quick/get open WRs doesn’t mean they aren’t there. We aren’t a contender. Yes, we beat the Raiders, but that’s all we got. We have a chance to beat bad teams if the D doesn’t poo the bed. If we can get a good long term asset, we should. Not a day 3 pick but a legit pick from a team that is a contender and is in desperate need of a quality WR. Heck, who’s to say we can throw money at DJ after the season since Rice will likely be healthy for 2025.

It would need to be at least a 2nd or say a 2026 1st. Rice being hurt is huge for KC. They could have lost every single game so far and Kelce without Rice still only managed 7 for 80. Their running game is hurt. They are 4-0 and have the tiebreaker with the Ravens. A trade might be the only way to keep them with a chance. We could take advantage of their weakness right now.

Don’t remember preseason 2023 at all? There were tons of threads on how bad the OL looked. Iky was getting killed in one on one situations. Not blitzes, just man on man, this one guy is who you have to block. Hendrickson causing the interception of Dalton being an example of how Iky was losing one on one all the time in 2023. You are completely ignoring the fact that our entire interior OL wasn’t there in 2023 and Iky was playing awful. Maybe you don’t remember this but our 2023 OL was terrible. It didn’t help that Young sucked as well but they were bad well before we knew Young sucked.

Our OL was crap as well last year. Both can be true. Iky let up a pressure on Sunday that caused an interception and a Cincy TD. Doesn’t mean Dalton caused the OL failure. People overrated the OL last year. Injuries and Iky’s regression were obvious. Do you not recall how bad they looked in preseason? Iky was getting beat one on one all the time and Bryce barely played in the preseason last year. Bryce sucked but the 2023 OL did as well and we saw the start of that in preseason, especially with the injuries. We wouldn’t have spent $150M on two guards if that OL was good.

Yes, he was absolutely 100% the fault on offense. He was awful and as I felt last year, I don’t think he’ll ever be a serviceable starter in the NFL. No, he was not to fault on the defense. The whole 3 and out comment doesn’t work when the D gives up TDs to the opponents before Young stepped on the field or on the first drives well rested after halftime or blatantly whiffs on multiple tackles leading to 60 yard TDs. Our D clearly sucks, especially without Brown and is so full of talent holes that no QB play would fix. As bad as Mahomes is playing, he’d likely be 0-4 if he had our D and that’s not an exaggeration.

Again, we gave up TDs on the first drives of games before Young ever stepped on the field. We lost in part due to failing at the goal line, but more so because the D let up an TD with 1 minute left before half and then let them march down the field right after half when they were rested during halftime. Our D is just ass, it is. It has been for a bit. Brown and maybe Horn, if he stays healthy, are the only guys other teams would even want to have on their teams. I know people have enjoyed Dalton starting (my son and I have), but there are still so many holes on our team, including depth. We lose Brown and we become the worst D in the league. We lose Thielen and we drop too many balls. Hopefully, Legette, Brooks and Sanders take big steps next year so we can focus on the D and maybe add a Tank Dell/Josh Downs type as our 3rd WR in the 3rd or 4th round. Not sure about any QB in this draft so I wouldn’t be opposed to the best D player. I see some DL/CBs up high in mocks. Ideally, we can trade down a little for a QB needy team. I know we are too but maybe we fleece someone for once.

Either way, he’s an UFA and I think we need to walk away and say thanks. He got paid very well so It wouldn’t surprise me if he did retire.

Dalton wasn’t a top QB in the AFC but you can be a pro bowler filling in for guys in the SB or don’t want to play.

Chubba is a JAG, but he’s always going all out. As I got roped back into Fantasy this year, I will caution that the Raiders have been awful against the run. Well over 400 yards and 3 TDs in 3 games. Their comeback against the Ravens made them look better than their should be 0-3 record. Their coach talking about firing people needs to look in the mirror. If Brooks is what we hoped, we should see some really good results with this OL.

I thought Tremble was OK but Sanders messed up a few times. He was the one who blocked Moton and let Dalton take a hit from an untouched blocker. He didn’t catch anything either. He waited for it and let the defender make a play on the ball instead.

That was Sanders fault. He turned into Moton like he was blocking Moton and Moton wasn’t able to get the LB. I don’t know if Sanders was supposed to block the guy or just chip him but he was going the opposite of everyone else. Honestly, Sanders was the only guy who didn’t play well IMHO. Almost everyone else looked good or at least had a good contribution. Maybe Zavala since he got the false start but he also wasn’t a starter/wouldn’t have played if not for injury. Thomas hasn’t stepped on a field yet this year so it wasn’t him.