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Of late? Man, it’s been 5 years since he’s had more than 33 yards in a season.
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Signing WR/TEs who’s last reception was 4 years ago is a decent enough reason. He also only had 33 yards in 2019, so effectively it’s 5 years since he really played. We signed two starting FA WRs and have 2 recent round 2 WRs. We have a recent round 3 TE, signed a starting TE and have a TE we just extended, but we needed to sign a guy whose last season was 33
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Is it Josh McDaniels that turned Renfro into crap? Renfro had a solid first two years going over 600 yards in each and then had that pro-bowl year 3. He missed 7 games last year but even when healthy last year and all of this year, he’s an afterthought. McDaniels offense has fallen off a cliff too.
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I think we’ve seen the same bad trade ups and talent evaluation continue enough without Rhule to show that Fitt was as complicit as Rhule. Heck, even though they won’t admit it, we heard plenty of tidbits from huddlers, disappeared, that Fitt was handed the keys before the 2022 offseason since Rhule was obviously on the hot seat. Both should have hit the road at the same time and we paid the price. I’d be happy with Burns and DJ Moore but any sane GM knowing our roster limits would have jumped at 3 1sts (pick 15 and 2024/2025) and a 2nd (pick 36) to juice our talent and use the $50m a year rolled over on FAs in 2025 when Young was ready. We probably don’t finish 7-10. Two less wins and we had pick 5, three less pick 3. Would have been nice to get Young and use less picks. Instead we trade DJ for way less value than offered when we said we wouldn’t trade him and can’t sign Burns.
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Lol. This is not huddle rage. It’s amazing that after proven wrong you have to post this in a completely different thread. Detroit, Miami, Jacksonville and the Jets have all made star player for multiple firsts/tanking moves in the past 3-4 years and all of them have gotten better and 3 of them look like potential perennial playoff contenders. Jets just haven’t had QB luck but they are still a better team. We, on the other hand have been handing out picks like candy and not committing to a rebuild. Guess who’s the worst team of the 5?
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Official Trade Deadline & Speculation Thread
WhoKnows replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
If Burns is off the market then there really is no point in trading anyone for late day 3 picks. Fitt has had 14, yes 14, day 3 picks in 3 drafts. The only starts we’ve had were because of injuries and only 1 of them has contributed (Hubbard) because we traded the best RB in the league for nada. We had 3 1sts (one was pick 15) and pick 36 in our hands last year for a rebuild and now we’re discussing some of our starters for day 3 picks and Burns hasn’t been extended. This is fun. -
That’s season was more about Luck. He had 1 game above 94 rating in the first 6 games with 8 interceptions. In the last 10 games he had 8 games above 94 rating and 7 interceptions. Don't forget that Luck missed the entire 2017 season so he was rusty and got better. Their only loss in the last 10 games was Luck’s worst game in the last 10. If Young takes off, we do have an easy schedule.
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It sure feels that way, but I still think the Chargers would win with a better coach. Staley just doesn’t seem to make good calls and know how to handle situations. Always feels like he makes the wrong calls and sometimes they get lucky but I put 90% on him.
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How Many of You Would Actually Want a Trade for a WR
WhoKnows replied to Hoenheim's topic in Carolina Panthers
What’s mind boggling is turning down that offer for Burns and not being able to extend him. Those picks were slated to be better than ours (Rams finished worse and started a fire sale) so we should have been able to parlay that into keeping Moore and still having our 2024 first and the Rams 2025 first. We’d be our Burns but with the $30M a year savings we could sign someone like Floyd and the top FA G to man LG. It was right there within our grasp and now it feels like we’ll sell Burns to the first team that offers a 2024 1st so Fitts can act like we got our full set of picks. Felt that way with CMC like he was trying yo make up for Darnold and Henderson. How awesome is it to realize Fitt basically traded CMC for a 2 year rental of Darnold and Henderson? At least we aren’t seeing anymore Fitt is great threads. -
Exactly, I have no idea why people are defending Wilks. An opponent has 12 or so seconds left and 60 yards to go with no timeouts. The only way you give up a TD is if somehow their best WR gets behind coverage and makes a play. Not only was their best WR single covered, there was also no one deeper just in case. I will say Ward also should have knocked the ball away. I don’t know why in some cases CBs don’t just knock the ball away. With that little time, you just have to keep the ball as far from the WR as possible. By trying to intercept the ball, he made it possible for the WR to grab it away or if he doesn’t catch it, he made it possible to somehow bounce around to the WR.
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No, it didn’t really work, Cousins was still able to get the ball well downfield. There were 7 seconds left when Addison scored and Minnesota had no timeouts. That play was basically a Hail Mary and yet there wasn’t a single defender behind Addison and he was single covered. That’s a terrible call. Sorry, but it was the type of blitz play you see on a last play before the half or end of the game that usually works because it’s not easy to get a 60 yard TD on any attempt. The problem is that when the other team has one play left and no timeouts and 60 yards to go, there is no reason to blitz and single cover their best WR. If the blitz is picked up, you gave the offense a chance as we saw. It was funny to hear the announcers skewer Wilks, but the DC is pretty much always skewered when they do something like that.
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Week 7 Other NFL Games thread
WhoKnows replied to Move the Panthers to Raleigh's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don’t think CMC held himself out. That’s a Hurney special when we were out of contention. Start padding the IR list to keep the seat less hot. -
Week 7 Other NFL Games thread
WhoKnows replied to Move the Panthers to Raleigh's topic in Carolina Panthers
My fantasy team is enjoying her. Kelce’s averaging over 100 yards per week with her at the games. I hope she’s at every game the rest of the year. -
Week 7 Other NFL Games thread
WhoKnows replied to Move the Panthers to Raleigh's topic in Carolina Panthers
Very familiar. I can only imagine how short Cam’s career would have been if Gettleman wasn’t into hog mollies. I know he made a lot of mistakes the Commanders OL dissolution under Rivera and Rivera/Hurney is extremely similar to Rivera/Hurney 2.0 after DG was gone. At least DG was drafting OL and signing FAs to add guys. Hurney and Rivera let OL leave and cobbled together crap with little to no draft picks (how many 1st round DL do they have?) and this is now the second place where their OL went from solid before them to crap in a matter of 3 years. -
Week 7 Other NFL Games thread
WhoKnows replied to Move the Panthers to Raleigh's topic in Carolina Panthers
True and we appear to be getting better. We were only down 21-14 at half to Miami before they beat us 42-21. That’s big progress from being down 28-10 at half to Detroit before losing 42-24. Also, after those two teams got spanked by Baltimore and Philly this weekend, it made me feel like we exposed the blueprints for how to beat the Lions and Dolphins. -
Panthers Nostalgia: '03 Panthers Bourbon
WhoKnows replied to Diehardpanth02's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Week 7 Other NFL Games thread
WhoKnows replied to Move the Panthers to Raleigh's topic in Carolina Panthers
The Hurney 2.0 (and Mayhew) effect happening again. We went from Kalil x2, Turner, Norwell, Williams and Moton as our starting/top 6 guys to Erving, Elflein, Jordan, Daley, Little and Moton. This article from August about the Washington OL is comical: https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/washington-commanders-martin-mayhew-ol-sam-howell-charles-leno-saahdiq-charles-sam-cosmi-nick-gates-andrew-wylie#:~:text=The Washington Commanders are hoping,group has what it takes. Watching parts of that game really made me feel like the GM situations here and there are remarkably close in their ineptness. -
Week 7 Other NFL Games thread
WhoKnows replied to Move the Panthers to Raleigh's topic in Carolina Panthers
Member when Fitt was talking up a WR pre-draft that he was so infatuated with because he evaluated so damn well? Just makes you realize how similar he is to Hurney 2.0 after round 1 (he’s not as good there either). Guys like Little and Grier compare to Corral, DJ Johnson and Mingo. Must have prospects who weren’t nearly as good as our infatuation. SMH, it hurts to think about how much more talented our team would be if our GM was a committee of Huddle members who follow the draft. -
Dude, the Panthers have apparently infected all the Carolina college teams. Clemson has literally been blowing games left and right with red zone, heck goal line turnovers turning into opponent points. App State lost a game on a blocked FG to put the game away. UNC losing to a 1-5 Virginia? Clemson just tried to fumble away another scoring opportunity. SMH.
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What? The draft is the best way to build a team. We are 0-6, stop acting like we have a good team that doesn’t need an influx of talent. If we don’t draft we’ll at some point, we are going to be in this poo for a while. Also, we’ve traded a ton of picks in the past few off seasons. Are we better or worse after getting rid of Rhule and replacing him with an all star staff? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. We’ve been prioritizing trading away picks for several years and we are the worst team in the league over that time.
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Lol. It sucks that it feels like we will be doing panic rebuilding now that we didn’t do it when we should have. After firing Rhule was the perfect time (notwithstanding 2020). Trade CMC and then we stopped. Fitt reminds me of Hurney 2.0. Panic trade ups to get guys who would have dropped or just bad players. Not drafting strengths of the draft like La Porta, Mayer and Musgrave instead of Mingo. I’d bet the deep TE class has more 2nd/3rd success than Mingo. Trading marquee future picks draining the overall team talent.
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Let's Talk second round WR prospects...
WhoKnows replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
It’s not that simple and KC’s scoring is at the lowest level since Mahomes started. They had been scoring 28-35 ppg since 2018, averaging around 30 per game. This year with not even a Juju to go with Kelce and they are at 24.5, almost 6 ppg less than 2018-2022. Of course, everyone would take say 3 Tee Higgins or 3 Theilens over Chase, TMJ and Mingo but that’s not a good comparison. Chase has Higgins and Boyd. Hill had Kelce and now has Waddle. AJ Brown and Smith are together. Samuel, Aiyuk and Kittle. What we need is not Chark, TMJ and Mingo. We need a top threat to go with Theilin. Heck, we’ve got no Bijan or CMC and we certainly don’t have a Kelce or anything resembling a TE threat. It was all the rage in here that Young just needed a bunch of decent guys and no star and that was wrong. -
You can now since it is just a four week minimum. I do not know if they can come off IR as soon as traded. Man, it sure seems like we are pulling our Hurney’s magic trick to stay off the hot seat with all of the IR moves.
