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What’s mind boggling is turning down that offer for Burns and not being able to extend him. Those picks were slated to be better than ours (Rams finished worse and started a fire sale) so we should have been able to parlay that into keeping Moore and still having our 2024 first and the Rams 2025 first. We’d be our Burns but with the $30M a year savings we could sign someone like Floyd and the top FA G to man LG. It was right there within our grasp and now it feels like we’ll sell Burns to the first team that offers a 2024 1st so Fitts can act like we got our full set of picks. Felt that way with CMC like he was trying yo make up for Darnold and Henderson. How awesome is it to realize Fitt basically traded CMC for a 2 year rental of Darnold and Henderson? At least we aren’t seeing anymore Fitt is great threads.

Exactly, I have no idea why people are defending Wilks. An opponent has 12 or so seconds left and 60 yards to go with no timeouts. The only way you give up a TD is if somehow their best WR gets behind coverage and makes a play. Not only was their best WR single covered, there was also no one deeper just in case. I will say Ward also should have knocked the ball away. I don’t know why in some cases CBs don’t just knock the ball away. With that little time, you just have to keep the ball as far from the WR as possible. By trying to intercept the ball, he made it possible for the WR to grab it away or if he doesn’t catch it, he made it possible to somehow bounce around to the WR.

No, it didn’t really work, Cousins was still able to get the ball well downfield. There were 7 seconds left when Addison scored and Minnesota had no timeouts. That play was basically a Hail Mary and yet there wasn’t a single defender behind Addison and he was single covered. That’s a terrible call. Sorry, but it was the type of blitz play you see on a last play before the half or end of the game that usually works because it’s not easy to get a 60 yard TD on any attempt. The problem is that when the other team has one play left and no timeouts and 60 yards to go, there is no reason to blitz and single cover their best WR. If the blitz is picked up, you gave the offense a chance as we saw. It was funny to hear the announcers skewer Wilks, but the DC is pretty much always skewered when they do something like that.

I don’t think CMC held himself out. That’s a Hurney special when we were out of contention. Start padding the IR list to keep the seat less hot.

My fantasy team is enjoying her. Kelce’s averaging over 100 yards per week with her at the games. I hope she’s at every game the rest of the year.

Very familiar. I can only imagine how short Cam’s career would have been if Gettleman wasn’t into hog mollies. I know he made a lot of mistakes the Commanders OL dissolution under Rivera and Rivera/Hurney is extremely similar to Rivera/Hurney 2.0 after DG was gone. At least DG was drafting OL and signing FAs to add guys. Hurney and Rivera let OL leave and cobbled together crap with little to no draft picks (how many 1st round DL do they have?) and this is now the second place where their OL went from solid before them to crap in a matter of 3 years.

True and we appear to be getting better. We were only down 21-14 at half to Miami before they beat us 42-21. That’s big progress from being down 28-10 at half to Detroit before losing 42-24. Also, after those two teams got spanked by Baltimore and Philly this weekend, it made me feel like we exposed the blueprints for how to beat the Lions and Dolphins.

2023 Version

The Hurney 2.0 (and Mayhew) effect happening again. We went from Kalil x2, Turner, Norwell, Williams and Moton as our starting/top 6 guys to Erving, Elflein, Jordan, Daley, Little and Moton. This article from August about the Washington OL is comical: https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/washington-commanders-martin-mayhew-ol-sam-howell-charles-leno-saahdiq-charles-sam-cosmi-nick-gates-andrew-wylie#:~:text=The Washington Commanders are hoping,group has what it takes. Watching parts of that game really made me feel like the GM situations here and there are remarkably close in their ineptness.

Member when Fitt was talking up a WR pre-draft that he was so infatuated with because he evaluated so damn well? Just makes you realize how similar he is to Hurney 2.0 after round 1 (he’s not as good there either). Guys like Little and Grier compare to Corral, DJ Johnson and Mingo. Must have prospects who weren’t nearly as good as our infatuation. SMH, it hurts to think about how much more talented our team would be if our GM was a committee of Huddle members who follow the draft.

I’d do that in a heartbeat. Just so much better last year because it felt like the Rams weren’t going to be a good team. Luckily for them they actually had a good draft even without a first round pick.

Dude, the Panthers have apparently infected all the Carolina college teams. Clemson has literally been blowing games left and right with red zone, heck goal line turnovers turning into opponent points. App State lost a game on a blocked FG to put the game away. UNC losing to a 1-5 Virginia? Clemson just tried to fumble away another scoring opportunity. SMH.

We won’t get the value now, but not trading him last year for 2 1sts and pick 36 was the big mistake. We should have prioritized weapons for a QB that we knew we’d be taking in this past draft. Signing a $30M a year edge rusher was not smart for the future instead of building around the QB.

What? The draft is the best way to build a team. We are 0-6, stop acting like we have a good team that doesn’t need an influx of talent. If we don’t draft we’ll at some point, we are going to be in this poo for a while. Also, we’ve traded a ton of picks in the past few off seasons. Are we better or worse after getting rid of Rhule and replacing him with an all star staff? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. We’ve been prioritizing trading away picks for several years and we are the worst team in the league over that time.

Lol. It sucks that it feels like we will be doing panic rebuilding now that we didn’t do it when we should have. After firing Rhule was the perfect time (notwithstanding 2020). Trade CMC and then we stopped. Fitt reminds me of Hurney 2.0. Panic trade ups to get guys who would have dropped or just bad players. Not drafting strengths of the draft like La Porta, Mayer and Musgrave instead of Mingo. I’d bet the deep TE class has more 2nd/3rd success than Mingo. Trading marquee future picks draining the overall team talent.

It’s not that simple and KC’s scoring is at the lowest level since Mahomes started. They had been scoring 28-35 ppg since 2018, averaging around 30 per game. This year with not even a Juju to go with Kelce and they are at 24.5, almost 6 ppg less than 2018-2022. Of course, everyone would take say 3 Tee Higgins or 3 Theilens over Chase, TMJ and Mingo but that’s not a good comparison. Chase has Higgins and Boyd. Hill had Kelce and now has Waddle. AJ Brown and Smith are together. Samuel, Aiyuk and Kittle. What we need is not Chark, TMJ and Mingo. We need a top threat to go with Theilin. Heck, we’ve got no Bijan or CMC and we certainly don’t have a Kelce or anything resembling a TE threat. It was all the rage in here that Young just needed a bunch of decent guys and no star and that was wrong.

You can now since it is just a four week minimum. I do not know if they can come off IR as soon as traded. Man, it sure seems like we are pulling our Hurney’s magic trick to stay off the hot seat with all of the IR moves.

Lol. Do you really think Nicole Tepper did the trade itself or do you think she dialed the Steelers as a former minority owner to grease the skids? I read that and also found this one nugget where in February Thomas Brown talks about needing a point guard. It also mentions Brown collaborating with Reich on evaluations, again in February. It was April after the pick that Tepper talked about being Young as a point guard and potentially not needed Moore. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/23/panthers-oc-thomas-brown-introductory-press-conference-qb/ https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/04/28/2023-nfl-draft-panthers-owner-david-tepper-bryce-young-day-2-picks/ Lots of people used that as the Tepper made the decision on Young and forced him down the throats of others. Personally, I think Fitt, Reich and everyone else did decide on Young and talked about the point guard aspect in selling it to Tepper and making everyone ok with throwing in Moore. That also doesn’t mean that these guys didn’t like Stroud and Richardson, they still liked Young more.

It’s going to piss us off if a trade like this happens. 2022 trades we turned down: Moore for pick 15 in 2023 Burns for pick 36 in 2023, 2024 1st and 2025 1st 2023 trades we made: Moore for a 2nd or 3rd round value based on Rams trade up for Goff, even though they started at pick 15 not pick 9 (hint we basically threw in Moore) Burns we don’t know yet

Never said Rams 2023 1st. I think you misread something. I mentioned that we should have traded Moore to GB for 2023 pick 15 last year instead of including him for Young. I believe it was mentioned early in the Young trade that we got to keep our 2025 1st (just send 2025 2nd) by including Moore. We got way less value for Moore than we would have gotten last year. Seems to track with likely getting less value for Burns this year as well. I said that we would have had 2023 pick 36 as part of the Burns deal along with the Rams’ next two 1sts. Next two drafts being 2024 and 2025.

You said it. The offer from the Rams was a fleecing. Remember the 49ers started slow and Jimmy was I think already dinged up. The Rams saw a window knowing they were going to have to jettison some guys (Floyd, Ramsey, etc.). They even enquired about CMC, probably a better deal than SF since their 2nd rounders diverged and we got the one almost a round lower (25 picks to be exact). If we trade Burns for this now, you have to fire the GM. We could have had pick 15 in the last draft for Moore instead of throwing him in so we keep our 2025 1st and trade our 2025 2nd. We could have gotten pick 36 in this draft as well, which with a simple trade up (Arizona gave up pick 33) could have been our young TE like La Porta who went 34th. Oh, we’d also have the Rams next two 1sts. Heck, the Rams first were considered better at the time so maybe we could have used those or GB’s pick for Young and our own 2024 pick might still be in our pocket.

It is funny, isn’t it. I blame him for keeping bad GMs and hiring bad coaches. I just find it really funny how he’s becoming a scapegoat for everything like Rhule did. Doesn’t mean either of them were good or don’t deserve blame but they both were used to say things like Fitterer has done well but Rhule (and now Tepper) hamstrung him and Reich always wanted Richardson, I mean Stroud since he’s doing better, and Rhule’s/Tepper’s wife was running the draft. Reich and Rhule were poo coaches. Hurney and Fitt were poo GMs. Tepper is responsible for them but dear lord, he’s not calling plays and making every decision.

Dude, we are the worst team in the league. I don’t get your attempt to put lipstick on a pig. We are one of 5 teams with multiple D TDs. The other 27 have 1 or none. Even with that, it still doesn’t matter. We are in a boat with NE, NYG and Denver, but they’ve at least won a game. The Giants have had a brutal schedule (Dallas, Miami, Buffalo and SF). Patriots at least kept the Philly and Miami games close. Denver had one horrific game but has kept every other game close. We’ve had two close games, one because we had a 99 yard interception TD and the other because of a score with 1 minute left against prevent.

If the Dolphins hadn’t run up the score against Denver and scored 70, we’d easily be the worst D in the league. Outside of both teams games against Miami, we’ve given up 14 more points in our other 5 than Denver has in their other 5.

We are one of 5 teams with more than one Defensive TDs. 15 teams have none. Our offensive production is terrible. 2 TDs by the D and tons of garbage time scores.