Loyalty4Life

Yeah, I assumed he took the shot to the bottom WR who looks to be manned up. It also looks like he's covered. The RB looks to open as well and has a blocker but your said the defense jumped all over that. In any event, I'd with you and would love to see him throw up the 50/50 ball to the single WR.

I may be confused on what happened during the play. Link to the video?

Wharton and Bobby Brown have been an asset and contributed to our defensive improvement. We can always argue if there contract are worth their play. Scourton looks like a stud in progress and Princely has shown a lot of promise in situational pass rushes although you can nitpick and say they are linebacks and not dline. Morieg has been the biggest difference in our defense (outside of DB). All of these are Morgan decisions although it's never just one person. Going from the worst run D in NFL history to 15th overall IMHO is basically "fixing" the dline/defense.

Fully agree. I tell my boss all the time. My job isn't to make the best decision. I will tell you what I think the best decision is but my job is to make the decision my boss decides on to work. How do I make what he wants work even if I think there is a better option. This is the most wins we've had since 2017. In fact there have only been 10 seasons (out of 30) we've won 8 games or more in franchise history. We're in the playoffs and won the division. That also hasn't happened since 2017. The last 8 years of Rhule, Reich and looking under every rock for a QB left us at probably the worst point in franchise history. I'm giving a ton of credit to the current brain trust. I want to keep Morgan, Canales, and Tillis together for the foreseeable future. Fans expect too much, too fast because out of 32 teams you can see when a team gets lucky and hits a homerun with a FA or draft pick and expect that is the standard.

I think Kurt breaks it down very well. I watched the whole video and Kurt never once mentions a weak arm. He talks most about Bryce's mechanics being set at the top of his drop to be in the best position to combine power and accuracy. I don't hear any references to a lack of velocity, hanging balls up in the air or a lot of the repeated nonsense about Bryce being too small or an inability (physical or mental) to make a play. Any QB that isn't setting their feet regardless of arm strength isn't going to be as accurate as they would be with a proper base. Cam didn't have good footwork at all and his issue was the opposite in this in that he didn't have a power issue because of his arm strength but his bad mechanics lead to accuracy problems. I do think his arm strength also played into being able to throw the ball well with touch. Kurt said it best at the end of the video. Every QB has limitations and every QB has to learn how to work around those limitations to maximize their abilities. Bryce's consistent improvement, age and potential to continue to improve is why I'm so bullish on seeing him as the starter over the next 2 years.

I think you're 100% right about the point of this play but I don't see the issue with it. It looks like it designed to get the X receiver 1v1 to take a deeper shot. We can see the entire defense bite and get drawn to all the action on the right side. This play looks to be designed for deep shot to check down. Kurt actually references this concept in the video where the back is out to the flat with an "escort". I'm not following your point. Many deep shots are planned and are a 2 read and go concept.

Kurt is correct. One of Bryce's biggest issues is throwing behind his receivers and being late on the throw. That is 100% true and I wish this tread had actually discussed that more. Average velocity on throws in the NFL is 54mph. Estimates for Bryce are around 55-60mph. For reference, elite arm velocity for guys like Josh Allen is 60-65mph. Every scouting report has said he has the NFL arm strength to make all the NFL throws. What he does NOT have is the ability to generate power with just his arm. This limits him in a crowded pocket or when he can't generate power with his base. The lack of power from throwing without a proper base is a smaller issue. The BIG problem is how this combination effects his accuracy. It causes him to throw late and behind his receivers. This is why he has to play with timing and anticipation. Numerous other QB's in the league also have this same issue. Jared Geoff, Mac Jones, Drew Brees are examples.

We get a 3rd round pick if Evero gets a job next year as a HC. It does not matter if he is under an expiring contract or not. The rules are he has to be with the team for two years and there can't be a break in employment. If he takes a year off and then signs as a HC, we get nothing. If he gets a HC job next year we get a 3rd pick. Full stop.

Classic armchair QB, backseat driving. Trying to insinuate that is was easy and obvious to see Bryce would struggle in the NFL based on his college career. Most had him at 1 or 2 overall and I think I'd be very safe to say every team had him evaluated as a high 1st round pick. None of that really means poo but acting like it supports the "Truth" about Bryce is just disingenuous. I really like Bryce but I'm not blind. I can see the inconsistent play and problems but I also see more and more examples of elite play. The best course of action is to pick up his option because of the shown continuing improvement (overall and independent of draft expectations), youth of the offense coaching staff and players. Also, the lack of a better option in FA or next years draft. I look it a little like poker. This team lead by Canales and Young is the best hand we've been dealt in a decade. I'm calling the bet but I'm not ready to raise. I wanna see the river card first. Stupid to fold this hand too soon.

I thought that was the point of the conversation. Was Bryce just not good in college and was always a bad QB but was somehow carried to glory on the wings of elite surrounding talent and great coaching?

Hear me out. I've never understood why you don't have a specific position on the team for running QB sneaks. Put on a super jumbo package with a single purpose. Fall forward. It's going be a run. QB sneak is not really that sneaky, is what I'm saying.

I care. Bryce and Johnny were nasty good in college. Full stop.

It's so bad that it's happening to every team in the league.

We're not special. All teams have many of the same issues we have. We are continuing to learn and get better. The trend line has been going up ever since Canales took over. Talent level has improved. Depth is improving. Players and team are improving. Coaching on offense and defense. Front office and coaching all on the same page. Culture is changing. We are knocking on the door of the playoffs. The biggest thing we need to upgrade is half of this fan base. We are not cursed or doomed to eternal failure. The NFL is built on parity and it's hard to win especially when we are finally staying the course and not starting over every 2 years. Abandon hope all ye who enter here.

Technically, that's a D,D,D,D,D,D,D,D,D,DD,D,DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!

When do they have to vote? With all the dysfunction in Chicago and the stories coming out about Calab earlier this year, I'd go with Ben Johnson.

I wish I could pie you 100 times. It really is this simple. PS. Brown and Horn are both living up to, if not exceeding their contracts.

I nominate Raheem Morris for still having a job.

That is crazy. I didn't know that. Goodwin? Who is coaching the tackles? The interior?

For such an easy pass I see top QB's every week overthrow deep balls. Timing and accuracy on deep throws is not the same at all as throwing against air. Dropping dimes might be harder than throwing dots.

The hiring of Joe Gilbert last year cannot be overstated. Elite, what he's done with improving players and making chicken salad out of chicken poop due to injuries.

A Dot is any type of pass where precision, timing and accuracy are needed. Dots, darts, dimes. All the same. Deep lofting passes, tight window throws, quick passes under pressure, placing a ball exactly where it needs to be in difficult situations. If the receiver does a dance or celebration after the catch it was probably a dot. Now, slinging I take exception with. If the throw is off schedule that is more slanging. Slinging is a more over the top motion.

If someone is telling you how to get rich, 9.9999 times out of 10 you are going to get taken for a ride and they will likely end up broke. Pro teams getting in bed with Veges will only lead to a richer NFL and a richer Veges built on the backs of people losing money. Love the guy who said to only bet what you can afford to lose. Agree 100.

So far, Tepper has never fired anyone I didn't already want fired.

Great take. I'm a big Bryce fan and have been since we drafted him. My stance has always been to give him time to develop. To have some patience. I look at each play and figure out where the issue was on that play and who did their job and who screwed up. Over time you look to see if the player is improving. Stats are a reflection of making the right decisions but depend very heavily on what the other 10 guys did or didn't do and what play Canales called and the situation. I hope no one would argue that the games in which Bryce plays well, he usually plays really, really well. You can easily see on dozens of individual plays where is does things at an elite level. We can also see how the teams talks about and responds to him, on and off the field. We are at the point now where we know whats possible. The question now is how to do it more consistently. We have a young coach. We have a young GM. We have young players. We have Young. Let the Panthers cook. It may not be happening on the time table or in the exact way the fan base wants but no one can argue this is the best the team has looked from top to bottom since Watt blew up Cam's shoulder. Front office, coaching staff and players. Win, lose or draw the Panthers are exciting and contending again.