LinvilleGorge

I don't think either team got fleeced. I do think a lot of this fanbase significantly underestimates DJ Moore's value and that might lead them to believe that we fleeced the Bears.

To be fair, Hubert isn't playing "his guys". Styles, Dunn, Washington, Nickel, and Trimble barely get any run at all. Those are Hubert's guys.

Next year? Likely very. That fluke championship game run likely bought him significant leeway and he has been recruiting like a beast. I don't know if his '24 recruiting class would save him from another subpar season next year though. He's probably going to get a "make the next year or else" talk soon.

Wouldn't be shocking to see him go to Chicago with our #9 overall pick.

Yeah, given their need for weapons for Fields and the strength of this edge rusher class it's highly likely that the Bears simply preferred Moore. This is a MUCH better edge rusher draft than WR draft on paper. Get a proven WR via trade, then land a good pass rushing prospect in the draft. There's also the contracts to consider. They're getting a legit starting WR under contract for three more years and we're gonna eat all the guaranteed money vs. with Burns they'd be looking to ink him to a shiny new (massive) deal with huge guarantees. Honestly, it's getting Moore in the deal was the smart play given the cards on the table. I do think that these negotiations likely led to a delay in Burns' extension. As long as he was potentially part of this trade package there was going to be no extension in Carolina. I wouldn't be surprised to see talk of Burns' extension ramp up in the coming days and weeks now that the deal is done.

They liked the deal. They're getting an additional future 1st, an additional future 2nd, an additional 2nd this year, and a legit starting WR. They badly needed help for Fields and they're getting it. Now they can focus on more weapons, pass rush, and OL. It's a great edge rusher class and they should still be able to land a top guy at #9 or possibly use one of their 2nds to package together with #9 to hop up a few spots to grab one. I honestly think both teams can feel like they "won" this trade on paper. We'll see who wins on the field.

I recently found tens of thousands of dollars worth of Civil War relics in a local attic. The belt alone is valued at $10-12k. They were stowed away in an old wooden crate that was lined with a newspaper from 1890.

Honestly the price doesn't feel THAT extreme. I think both teams can feel pretty good about the deal they made. Now it's time to see how it all plays out. Sometimes the "winners" of a trade end up not winning when it's all said and done. The Chargers got an absolute haul from the Giants for Manning and hit some home runs with those picks but when it was all said and done the Giants won two SBs and the Chargers rarely kade any noise in the postseason. Gimme them rangs.

I think we're in "we're a QB away" mode. We definitely aren't done making moves at WR for sure. We already could've used an upgrade at outside starting WR. Now we desperately need one and could use two.

I'd be a lot more hesitant about him without that game. But his game vs. UGA did for him what Fields' game vs. Clemson did for him, in my eyes at least. When I see a guy go out there and shred the best defense this side of the NFL on the biggest stage this side of the NFL playoffs it means something.

What we need to do is figure out our QB rankings while we also sniff around and figure out who the Texans prefer. If their #1 is our #2, front like hell that we're taking their guy and try to get them to swap picks with us. If our #1 is also their #1, just take #1.

Probably a camp arm. I think we'll sign a fairly experienced vet backup but we'll see.

I don't really care. I'm fine either way. But Tepper needs to let this offense and QB experience heavy staff he's hired make this pick. Stay out of it.

Seems like it's gotta be either Stroud or Young. I don't think you risk a trade like this to take a raw talent like Richardson or Levis. I just hope we get this right. I don't care who it is as long as he's a perennial All-Pro.

He was extended. There's three years left on his deal.

If it was local I'd definitely go but I'm not traveling for it.

I think the rumors about him being available for a ham sandwich may be true.

I didn't realize Costner had made a Draft Day 2.

I would've expected Burns. We clearly have moves to make at WR now because trading for #1 to take a QB while giving up your only proven NFL WR makes no sense.

Based on comments by the staff I'm betting Bryce Young

I get the criticism though. Due to the offensive system and the incredible surrounding talent he simply has more opportunities to throw to guys who are just wide ass open. It's why evaluating QBs that play for elite college teams is tough. His team is simply considerably more talented and better coached than the opposing team virtually every week. It's not a criticism of the prospect as much as it's simply an acknowledgement of that particular scouting challenge. Is he still the same guy in a less favorable situation?

Hmmm... https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/thomas-brown-describes-offensive-identity-what-he-wants-in-a-qb-more What kind of quarterback he wants "A really good one. There's all different kind of guys that come in all shapes and sizes. But to me, it's an ongoing conversation we've had over the last couple days. It's about who fits into this system, being selfless from a mentality standpoint, but also having a point guard mentality. Being able to distribute the ball to your playmakers. And on third down, red zone, two-minute, go play Superman."

Could have. We could have drafted Justin Fields. We could have drafted Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes. But we didn't.

Caleb Love needs to transfer. I love the kid but he's just not being done any favors by Hubert's no consequences constant green light coaching style. The kid struggles with consistency and decision making and we're just doing absolutely nothing to help him develop in those areas. He needs a coach that will force him to play within himself and plant his ass on the bench when he doesn't.

If I was a betting man I think I'd probably bet on Shaq being cut. His current contract just gives him too much leverage. If I'm the Panthers I'm probably amicably releasing him and allowing him to test the market letting him know we'd love to have him back but nowhere near $25M per year. People think I hate Shaq. I absolutely don't. He's a solid player. But he's a solid player who is carrying a cap hit of an elite player.