LinvilleGorge

I can't do this again today. I'm done with the idiocy. All the data is wrong. All those other countries that have virtually snuffed out COVID evidently just got lucky. We're on the right path despite blowing every other country on Earth out of the water in both case count and deaths. It's just stunning arrogance and ignorance.

Nailed it. It's impossible to have a civil intellectually honest debate with someone who ignores facts and data and evidence to insert their own opinions as if they carry the same weight.

Dafuq are you even talking about? The post you quoted wasn't directed towards you.

No disagreement there. I think it just has a huge normalization and empowering impact when you have a sitting POTUS spewing the anti-intellectual propaganda.

Is it really a conspiracy? Are you paying any attention to what is happening? Wait... let me retract that. The answers are pretty obvious.

Trump bet his Presidency on COVID being a hoax or "just disappearing" despite how insanely idiotic those ideas were according to just about every virologist and epidemiologist on the planet. He ignored his own advisors refusing to adhere to simple preventative measures because he thought that would make him look weak which has heavily contributed to the normalization of other citizens doing the same. Out of other options, the only move left is to cook the books and fix the score in order to claim victory.

There is now legit clinical evidence that stupid people don't wear masks. It can no longer be considered a statement of insult since there is actual supporting evidence. https://www.psypost.org/2020/07/study-lower-cognitive-ability-linked-to-non-compliance-with-social-distancing-guidelines-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak-57293

And we had a pretty long discussion about those confusions many pages ago. Fauci was an idiot when he said those things but a lot of them are being taken out of context now as well - which has to absolutely be expected in today's social and political environment. Anything you say can and will be edited and cut and pasted to be used against you.

I follow neither. I understand data. It's a huge part of what I do. The data supporting the efficacy of mask wearing is overwhelming. I've lost my patience in being civil about it. We'll watch our healthcare system get overwhelmed this winter and our economy get driven into the next Great Depression if we keep allowing idiots to go around mouth breathing without a mask.

A great case study on why America has had a far different COVID experience than any other developed nation.

He just got a warning as well.

If you turn this into a race baiting thread I'm gonna ban your ass. Straight up.

What part of "we've already had this conversation" don't you understand? I guess reading comprehension wasn't exactly your strong suit either. And no, that's not an insult. It's simply an observation. Go back and read if you want to rehash that conversation. I'm tired of being civil with people who are ignorantly or willfully enabling an ongoing pandemic that is going to have devastating impacts on our healthcare system this fall and winter and has already had a devastating impact on our economy that are ongoing.

You and your buddy Wes are the two who think you're outsmarting the world's leading virologists and epidemiologists. Y'all probably barely passed HS biology

Like I said, we went over this many pages ago. You were part of that conversation. Go back and read.

Yeah, we've already gone over Fauci's massive error in judgement of speaking out against masks early on to conserve supply for medical professionals. That was many pages ago.

Your "but people touch their face without washing their hands" kinda pretty clearly indicates that you don't understand how masks work.

If you actually care to educate yourself, feel free. But I'm pretty sure you're way too deep down the whataboutism rabbit hole to bother. https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

SC refuses to issue a mandate requiring masks, but they have issued a mandate requiring schools to be open five days a weeks this fall.

-catching-coronavirus-from-a-surface.html Not according to actual data. The data is trending more and more toward respiratory transmission and more and more away from touch transmission. Touch transmission is likely possible, but it's looking more and more like respiratory transmission is the dominant method of transmission.

You realize there is actual data STRONGLY suggesting that mask wearing is effective in real world situations, right? So, what are these mental gymanstics truly about? Honestly, I realize that I may need to switch tactics here...

Maybe I need another cup of coffee or maybe it's a bad translation, but what is that quote supposed to be getting at?

Their trust factor for a certain politician certainly hasn't wavered despite spewing blatant falsehoods at every opportunity. Funny how that works.

Constantly evoking whataboutisms and pseudo-science is a far better use of time?

It's so painfully simple. Yet we have people just flat out refusing to do it or engaging in mental gymnastics to convince themselves and others why maybe they shouldn't. Just wear the mask. This isn't a personal liberty issue and it's ridiculous to make it out to be one.