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Those would be two nice additions at CB, but a bit of overkill. Neither takes me as a nickel, but I am not sure. The knock on Kool-Aid was they played more zone at Bama than ever before....I think we could double dip at CB, WR, and/or LB. We are really thin at CB and LB.

If it were me, I would take the Center. I just do not see them doing it. I see Cooper or Saintisil.

I would love to have him--the personality alone makes him seem like a leader-Corbett is gone after this season, imo. Watch Tennessee--they may take him. I am guessing a ton of trades early in round 2--so who knows?

Some of these will fall to 65. Mark my words!!

I think there are going to be a LOT of trades in round 2.

Guessing that he joins Maye in Foxboro.

Sorry, Bear Hands--I have been working on a similar thread for the past hour--a bit different in that it discusses the teams prior to pick 39 and predicts how each might go. I think the pick will be Saintrisil CB or Cooper LB.

Here is how I see the first part of the second round going down: 33. Buffalo: They need a WR above all else, but they could use DL as well. Johnny Newton has to look like the best value here, but I expect the pick to be Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas. 34. New England: They would ideally like to add a LT here, but that would be a reach. Johnny Newton would also fill a key secondary need, but since Maye is likely to start in September, a WR might be the pick. WR Ladd McConkey Georgia seems to be a Patriot if you think about it. 35. Arizona: They need a true stopper at CB. Cooper DeJean CB Iowa, your wait should end now. This pick could be Kool Aid, and that would be more appropriate in the desert. I feel 60% confident that DeJean is a Cardinal if he survives Buffalo, but I feel about 30% confident this could be Kool Aid. 36. Washington: A team with so many needs is hard to gauge. They got their QB. This pick could be Kool Aid, but they could also use OT, WR, TE, and Edge. They have 2 picks in round 2, so they should take the best available player in a need area: Kool-Aid McInstry, CB Bama. 37. LA Chargers: Hard to say what Harbaugh will do, but he needs WR and he could go Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State. However, I think he could use a bit of DL help, and Johnny Newton DT, sitting there with a mid first round grade is too much value to pass up. They lost Keenan Allen and Mike Williams, however, and they must be replaced. The Chargers need multiple WRs. Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State is the pick. 38. Tennessee: If Johnny Newton, DL Illinois is there, they RUN to turn in the card. DL is a huge need. However, I expect a trade up to snatch Newton before he falls this far. If he is not there, they could take Jackson Powers-Johnson, C Oregon, giving them 2 stud OL. The pick is very important because the Titans do not have a third rounder. 39. Carolina: The Panthers definitely need CB and ILB. There is some debate over C, and there is a quality C on the board--I do not see them going that route, however. I think they love Cooper and Wilson, ILBs. I think they like CB Saintrisil. All are Dawgs. They could double dip at WR, but I doubt it here at 39--with 2 LBs on the board and a few CBs as well, they could trade back a bit. Instead of picking a player, here is a list of Best available that seem to be fits and positions of need: EDGE Marshawn Kneeland. C Jackson Powers-Johnson CB Enis Rakestraw LB Edgerrin Cooper LB Payton Wilson CB T J Tampa LB Junior Colson CB Max Melton CB Mike Saintrilsil CB Kamari Lassiter DT Brandon Fisk WR Ja’Lynn Polk WR Jalen McMillan WR Troy Franklin WR Dez Walker WR Roman Wilson WR Brenden Rice WR Malachai Corley

Yes. Canales is smart enough to know that his first task is changing the culture. Negative people thrive in a negative culture--he has to deal with that first. Moldy people do not thrive in sunlight.

I see what you are saying. However, I do not see how paying a QB who has never really taken his team to the promise land $50m per season for 2 years is a wise move.

Here is something we can all agree on---there are people who come to the Huddle to bitch when the Panthers do not pick the player they wanted. In defending their emotional (as opposed to logical or truthful) rant, they say something rather shallow or ignorant. It is obvious that they have not considered all perspectives, but they then spend several hours defending what they said during their rant to avoid appearing to be wrong. Newsflash: Nobody is right and nobody is wrong. You chose to take the negative path and you fight those who are more positive. I can say this--Legette is statistically identical to Harrison Jr. right now.

Nope. Best case scenario for Atlanta is that their 2024 first round draft pick never sees the field until they are deciding on his fifth-year option. Or he could play well in pre season and they could get a first rounder and some change for him in a trade--he is nothing but insurance at this point.

The Raiders got screwed out of Penix. That could be losing--here is the question: Do they take Rattler today?

the Cardinals also got Darius robinson, the DE from Missouri. Agree on all counts. The Atlanta pick--if Cousins goes down, you look smart. If not, you are making a decision of a fifth year option for a QB who has not played. Then you have an inexperienced QB wanting fair market value for his services. The Birds are going to have a TON of cap hit on the QB position alone. Here is the kicker--Penix will be 24 next month--and the Falcons, if all goes as planned, will ice him for 4 years before he starts a game.

So since you thought of one example, we are to apply that logic to all similar situations? Legette has not caught a pass in the NFL. Why not berate him for that. The bum.

Good post. I expect Thielen's numbers to drop--and that means the ball is going elsewhere. XL is a YAC guy and he should be a red zone threat. Johnson has averaged about 900 yards over the past 3 seasons with Pickett and Co. at QB and he was not the X. Expect 1000+ yards. I will guess that we should be able to get 750 or so from Legette. I also think they will use the TE more, Otton was not spectacular in Tampa but he had over 400 yards--more than all Panther TEs combined.

If you look at the big picture--Johnson, new OL, new scheme--yes, there will be noticeable improvement. We could really use a TE, but I think Tremble is about to break out in that role-he was not used that well before.

When Morgan says "Dawg" he has to be referring to ILBs first and foremost--Davis, Beason, Mills, Morgan, Luke--when we have been good, we have had "Dawgs" in the middle. It seems pretty likely that all the "Dawg" ILBs (Colson, Wilson, and Cooper) will be gone by 65. There will still be CBs available at 65--or a second WR. So I think Morgan goes LB at 39.

On my board/mock I have Tennessee taking him at 38. However, someone has to fall. Here is my up-to-date mock--I was giddy after this.

Dan Morgan? Come on out. We know you're in there.

But you didn't say 32---so close!!!

I am of the mindset that they will draft Edgerrin Cooper or Payton WIlson at 39. Then they might attempt to move up for a CB by the end of the round--not sure, obviously. If the CB from Iowa is somehow there at 39, that could change things.

Premature about both Mingo and Legette.

Um, yes you do. Isn't saying they drafted "for development" a case of you putting words in my mouth? Aren't you assuming that "developmental" means that he can't contribute from day 1? There is no recipe for drafting players; if you could bottle it, I am sure all GMs would buy it-you are pretending to know what nobody knows. That said, Name a player in this draft who was available at 32 who does not need development? But to assume that I understand your intent--you think that drafting raw talent with limited experience is not as good as someone who has demonstrated their full potential, correct? With that, the term "ceiling" is applicable, and you are saying that a player with a limited ceiling (because their skills were measurable and nobody drafted them until 32) is more valuable than a player with a higher ceiling. The draft is mining for talent, and diamonds do not come out of the mine already cut and set in gold. Coach em up.

I have been down on Campen for months--I wanted to see growth from Ekwonu, BC, Mays, Zavala--they got worse. And bringing in a bunch of name brand, 70-year old coaches last year was impressive, but they are not effective teachers any more--Not sure they can relate to Gen Z players like younger people can.