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In free agency, it was OK to get defensive with these second options, but look to get more defensive this coming Thursday night if little birdies can be trusted.

I mean, it's smart to use mock drafts, as the media should have some notion based upon varying degrees of insider info, who the teams are interested in. That way you can develop loose strategies based upon scenarios that could realistically happen during the draft. All that being said, it doesn't mean that teams are actually setting their big boards based upon media mock drafts, or that (God forbid) scouts are being influenced by mock drafts. It's just business as usual to be honest. It's smart business.

Not really this year. Everyone knows that Walker will be drafted by LB-needy teams. Everyone also knows we need an EDGE. They also know we need a safety. We've been linked to Walker, Williams, Stewart, Emmanwori and Starks. There's really nothing telegraphed as much as it is expected. Walker, at least pre-draft and on paper is the king of that hill. He's a no-brainer.

I haven't listened to it either, but that's good info. It sounds like,If someone doesn't fall, which Dan doesn't think will happen, trading down is the FO's desire. If they can't they'll just be "stuck."

Yeah, that silence is by design. As such, I won't be surprised if we get a surprise. If #11 is gone, I don't know who the hell we'll take.

Perhaps, but I am not one to think that you can say with surety that this or that QB is going to fail or be the golden goose. People have said all kind of things about prospects over the last decade. It's dart throwing to some extent, and all the chatter by scouts, coaches and execs simply turns out to be wrong more times than not and causes some profound misses. Just because they say it's so, doesn't make it so. Even more, the right setting can help a QB enhance their skill set or be fuged up. That's why you have guys like Jalen Hurts and Brock Purdy.

Without any hate added in, I would say that Olsen is about two to three times better than Brady. Olsen came in as a natural. Brady seemed somewhat uncomfortable in the beginning, but has shown signs of improvement. Romo does a decent job as well. There's something about knowing the game, and, as a fan, I always appreciate ex-players-turned-announcers who not only know their position, but everyone's position.

That's not gonna go do it. They're going to have to give us that pick 43. Honestly, I think that we'll do better than that when someone wants to move in front of New Orleans for Sanders or Dart.

Luvu drove me crazy sometimes with the over-pursuing. Walker's pursuit and tackling is truer. He's an exponentially better pass rusher as well. Walker ain't no joke out there. Admittedly I'm a Dawg, but Walker is a lot closer to Micah than Luvu. Bank it!

I mean, most receivers don't necessarily break out their rookie season. It wasn't a good year, including injuries, and it may have dampened excitement, but didn't snuff it completely out, at least probably for most people.

Of course we are.

Well that's rubbish.

What the...?

I mean, you can use that "logic," but the problem is that most practice squad players, backups or average guys don't put the play on film that Wharton did when given their opportunities. Perhaps you'll end up right, but I don't think that just because a guy has been in a rotation makes him inherently less productive because he gets more snaps. I will say that the KC fans I've seen on social media loved him, and considered him their second best DT, regardless of his "rotational" status, and generally considered him a dawg, so I'm going to give him the benefit of doubt until he shows otherwise.

Wharton is "literally just a rotational player," until he isn't. Guys can only take advantage of the opportunities given to them, and of course some of that is going to depend upon the circumstances---the setting in which he is playing.

It's "moronic" to take a DE, provided that a TE or WR is the obviously superior player. Reaching for players is why we are where we are today. Reaching for players, particularly on day one, is not a viable recipe for team building, much less championships.

I mean, "massive haul?" That's subjective. If we picked up an extra 1 and a 2, that'd be pretty good.

You guys need to stop acting like asking football-related questions on a football message board is "moronic." And, honestly, there's not a lot of poo for us to discuss anyway. Aren't some of you tired of beating the same ol' dead horses? I know that, as Panthers fans, we've been sucked into a vortex of general dead horse narratives anyway, but giving canned, dead horse responses doesn't exactly add anything constructive to the atmosphere.

The OP didn't mention trading up.

Well, we don't know. But we'll know all we need to know on the 24th, including whether he and Davie boy will be here in two years.

We shouldn't be taking any of them near or in the top 10 (save for Abdul Carter who isn't going to drop).

Why? So you can see the fugup sooner than later?

Because he's short and smallish for a pro EDGE.

What you guys don't realize is that we have every reason to be deploying smokescreens, while also keeping our top pick close to the vest after what Xavier Legette did last year. I'm not believing that we're taking Williams at eight for a minute.

Yeah, Warren "does more than Pitts," which is important, but the most profound difference--that should be at least stated---is that Warren is a dawg and Pitts is not. That's super important when making that comparison.