musicman

Its a learning curve. New owner and coach to the NFL and now new GM. It takes time to turn a large ship.

Tepper said this could take up to 5 years to build a consistent winner. Rhule's past has been 3. I say year 3 we make the playoffs and battle for a playoff spot every year after. What I see and think: Investment in both lines while searching for a future QB. They don't resign D Jax and get a 3rd rd comp pick. They have a lot of CBs. I do think they resign Gilmore to a 2 year deal (not too much money) so he can stay close to home. With Horn and CJ, Gilmore, Taylor and Bouye for 2022, you're set. They draft and sign O-lineman and another space eater D-lineman in 2022 and again in 2023. Doesn't matter who the QB is and how good your defense is if you can't take time off the clock on offense and score some points. They need a great Center to start with. Maybe Brown gets a shot at G. - without a big DT pushing the middle, having Burns and Reddick fast on the outside does nothing. QB steps up and throws it. I have a feeling they won't resign DJ Moore to an extension and take the comp pick in 2023. His drops and some poor routes might be a turn off. They showed yesterday an INT was part on him for not running the route correctly and drawing the safety towards him. If the announcers see it, the coaches definetly will. Darnold will compete for QB in 2022 as who knows if they sign or draft his competition. I think they will resign Reddick, but after giving more $ to Anderson (or now injuries with CMC), are they gonna shy away? They may take the 3rd rd comp pick for him too. I believe they will turn this into a consistently winning organization, it takes time. We are just impatient as fans.

Didn't the Dolphins win 3 in a row? I don't see them floundering.

Hopefully we'll see him back after the bye and hopefully we're 6-6 with a slim chance.

We weren't and are still not going to win the Super Bowl this year. But, a try at a playoff run will give these young players some great experience for next year and beyond. Yes, we should try BC at LT and some other guys if we don't have a shot at the playoffs later on. Even though we won't do anything in the playoffs, that experience of trying to, and maybe making it will go along way.

Wasn't he rated higher as a guard than a tackle in the draft? So they had to try. Let's hope he improves and solves the LT issue. Again, he just needs to be consistent, not great.

According to Pro Football Focus, Christensen was on the field for 26 pass-blocking snaps and didn’t concede either a sack or a quarterback pressure. This is a significant positive that also saw the first-year-pro emerge as Carolina’s highest-graded player with 81.1. Maybe we get solid work from that position going forward? Doesn't have to be great, just consistent.

The team will do something they have never done EVER during the introductions in team history. Be in the stadium early, you don't want to miss it.

Just in case it didn't play.

Panther pep rally - Living on a prayer.mov We're halfway through the season and we've got nothing to lose. If you're going on Sunday, be loud & proud. If you sell your tickets, try and sell it to a Panther fan.

If he did play well, he would have wanted a large multi year contract or if he did decently, they would have to take a chance and extend him with a longer contract. It was only a 2 year deal and we know after 1 year how he is. Wasn't really about saving money but taking a chance to possibly save us money. Didn't work out.

I see it as the Panthers took a chance and at least they are trying to get better after Watson and Stafford didn't pan out. I don't think Mac Jones would be as good in our system and along with Fields they have a long way to go before they prove to be franchise QBs. We had almost no choice to extend him as if he played really good, or at least looked like he was headed that way, it would have costed even more. At least the Panthers show they are not going to be cheap in trying to get good players. Some work out and some don't, plain and simple. Reddick and Luvu yes, Erving now. I see Darnold on the team next year, even if it's a back up role with Cam, a new draft pick or another signing.

What I said was...... "If we switched Darnold and Prescott like the movie "Trading places", would Darnold play better with Dallas's O-line, RBs and WRs? Absolutely! Not at Dak's level. And Dak would not play at his level with this team and the play calling, but would be better than Sam" I didn't say Sam was the answer or would be great and he's no where close to Daks level. I was just pointing out the team around you does make a difference and right now EVERYBODY is not playing good. Dallas right now is hitting on all cylinders and we are misfiring. Kellen Moore is also calling great games as a the OC. That's all that was said and asked. I even said we have no choice but to let it play out.

If we switched Darnold and Prescott like the movie "Trading places", would Darnold play better with Dallas's O-line, RBs and WRs? Absolutely! Not at Dak's level. And Dak would not play at his level with this team and the play calling, but would be better than Sam. We do have to give Sam a chance. Injuries did change things from the start of the season. O-line has regressed. The drops are like Covid spreading to everyone. And the defensive injuries are taking their toll. I'm sure the playbook is limited as this was his first year and we lost plays from training camp and preseason without CMC. The Panthers tried to find a QB (Stafford). They were in on Watson until it fell apart. When they hired Rhule, Tepper said this might be a 3 to 5 years building process. And I don't fault the team for trying this, trading for that person or the constant changes as they're trying to see what works. If everybody could make every move perfectly work out, then every team would be champions. Most moves don't work out. Part is timing. You need the right players playing at their top performance level at the same time and staying healthily - see 2015 Panthers. Unless some great deal falls in their lap, I see them rolling with Darnold next year while either developing a newly drafted QB or just building around him. As great as Mahomes is, the team is still losing because he doesn't have the players around him playing well. Anyway, we can't do anything right now and either can the Panthers so let's wait and see.

It's a domino effect. He loses CMC but steps up to finish the Texans game. Then the O-line starts to fade in the 2nd half of the Cowboys game and he never got on track. When there's pressure, he gets happy feet. Happy feet are not set when you throw so a lot of his passes are off target or just too hard as he just wants to get the ball out. Then the WRs are dropping some coachable balls. Then Joe Brady gets scared to call certain plays because the line won't hold up so everybody knows where gonna throw quick. Without CMC as his blanket, defenses are taking away his first read knowing he won't have time to really get to the second option without dancing around under pressure. Darnold looks bad but he has the tools, just needs the time. That 96 yards drive at the end of the Vikings game was impressive. He can do it. I believe any QB can be successful with time to throw, especially with our fast receivers, they should be able to get open. O-line is a priority next year and then we'll see. Darnold is the same situation as when with the Jets as we currently are as bad on offense (at least playing that way) as the Jets were, except we have a better defense.

Didn't watch the game.

I didn't say they were a few players away. Too many new and young players in a new system expected to win right a way? When ever you start over, you have to give it time. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Most times it's injuries that change the fortunes of a team. If Cam never hurt his shoulder, I wonder where we would have been the last few years. Major changes in 2 years during Covid protocols. Everybody wants to win and say they follow a winner. Hopefully we'll get out turn in the near future.

Just need it for 3rd down. Music/audio/announcer stops at 20 seconds and the drop off is HUGE.

Relax and look at it. We have injuries that we are just not experienced enough or deep enough to over come. I thought this team would be around 9-8, maybe 10-7 trying to snag last wild card spot, so we are not far off from that. OC Brady is still learning how to call and adjust calling plays at the NFL level. He'll get there and probably won't get a HC this year. Darnold is learning an entirely new offense and system (again) so that takes time. I think teams are figuring out of offense as we haven't fully installed the whole playbook, especially without CMC. There are times we look like rookies and 2nd year players, it takes time to gel. Fans in the stands. Against the Eagles it was embarrassing as Eagles fans were louder than Panther fans. Even the Vikings game, we didn't get loud till the end. Fans at BofA need to be always loud when the other team is on offense. We need to create hime field advantage and we don't. I hope and believe it's all small things causing the avalanche. Hopefully with a few small adjustments, some guys step it up and a few guys come back from injuries, we can start playing consistently good. We weren't winning the Super Bowl in 2022. 2023 and beyond is when we were really looking at starting to compete for the playoffs. Anything close this year is a bonus. Big picture. We're not that good but getting better and need a little more time.

While I understand the idea to trade him for a top O-line guy sounds good, he's playing too good to do that right now, IMO. Gilmore is going to stay another 2 years or so. Henderson too (obviously). We can have a dominating Defense for along time keeping them all, while we can afford too. We can sign a top O-line guy in FA and draft 2 OL in the 1st 3 rounds (which I suspect they will do). We need a great center to anchor the line. That's what Ryan Kahlil brought to the O-line. Fight to make a Wild Card this year and push for 2022 and beyond but also keep improving your record every year until you will the SB.

I see them resigning DJax long term, no doubt. I can see Gillmore getting a nice 3 to 4 year deal (say 6-7 mil a year) or a nicer 1 to 2 year deal (8-10 mil a year). He's 31 and that's old in football years. They are not going to break the bank for him. And he wants to stay in NC as he lives here. This is perfect for his family and give the team 2 to 3 years to win a SB, he just might do favorable team deal to stay.

Watching him last night, I see a Tommy Tremble like build and player. He's big and can block and can move and catch in space. A true TE. As much as I liked Arnold, he was really a big WR type. Tremble has the build and mentality of a Gronk and if he can do 1/2 of what Gronk still does, we're in business with a solid TE. I know he's not there yet and I'm not crowning him Gronk, but watching CJ play last night reminded me of Tremble.

This trade is worth it. Look what they did to help Darnold, even Reddick is better. What about Burris was playing better. They got Anderson last year to step up. I just think this coaching staff knows what they're doing and how to bring out the best in players. This team is being built to be strong year and year. IMO.... Gone are the up and down years.

Great move for now and the future. Love the way this team just doesn't sit back and wait. If you're not exactly what we need, they move on. I wild think DJax would stay for a decent check because happiness and success doesn't just come with a bigger contract - see JNO w/Washington and so many others for reference. I think we have the cap room to sign DJ Moore, Reddick, D Jax long term (3+ years each)

Some good, some bad. The good. We are not a SB team (this year) so seeing what Darnold can do for the future is huge. If he is solid this year, no matter the record, then we sign him long term. We'll also have other options to relying on CMC for everything so when he comes back he's another asset, not the main asset. The bad. Along with CMC, the Horn injury sucks as this Defense was looking legit long term shut down. In time, teams will find our holes. The O-line better get it's stuff together real fast which we all don't believe is ready to do that. Possibility of using DJ Moore in a hybrid role and getting Shi Smith involved for the shifty routes out of the back field could be interesting. Throwing down field more will loosen up the box and help the running game, like they did in the 2nd half. O-line will need to be better. This could also open up the 2 TE sets as Tremble looked real good.All this helps even if we split the games until CMC comes back.