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probably end up like one of his UFC fights.

took me a couple seconds haha

i can just imagine the meetings where teams tell their coaches and players that they have to lose games. "seriously, guys, it's for the good of the team! THINK ABOUT THE DRAFT!!!!!" i just can't get over how stupid a concept this is, especially in trying to make it happen. telling the coaches, "you know...just don't put in the best players. say you are putting in players to evaluate. no one will know." "you don't want us to win?" "think of the draft!" "but won't my job be in jeopardy if i lose?" "think of the draft!" or telling players to take it easy or that valuable players will all of a sudden be benched...for what? so we can draft their replacement? you may think t helps the long term picture by getting a better draft spot, but culturally that kind of poo is a killer. it tears down morale and it will keep free agents away who want to win. and it will keep new coaches who want to be part of a winning culture away from your team. and if a coach gets fired for losing even if he was told by the FO to do it, lawsuits coming.

yes we will see.... we'll see a star at QB in a panthers uni again. we'll see a QB who is beyond his years frustrating defenses.

he's got to tamper our expectations. that's his mission in life, to help us put the brakes on our excitement because Young or really any other QB taken at the top of this draft or any other draft isn't really worth the selection because you can get a Tom Brady in every draft. really he's just a miserable person in here.

because all QBs at any level does this kind of thing and makes the necessary adjustments. really no big deal, even for someone who is 19 years old and in their second college game ever. or frank reich is correct and there are pro QBs who don't make this kind of adjustment and that it is incredibly rare, especially for a 19 year old kid in his 2nd college game. nevermind...i forgot i'm talking to the lone expert here who is superior to every draft scout and coach in the league who sees that Young is on another level. thank you for imparting your wisdom with all of us idiots.

Excellent question. Who wants to play or coach for a team that chooses to lose? For any reason. You choose to lose and you end up a losing team in more ways than one. You choose to do that and you deserve to stay at the bottom of the barrel and more than likely that's where you stay. And that's no team I'm going to support either. You may say that's not being a good fan, but fans that want theyr team to lose are horrible for a teans morale and, imo, is the worst kind of fan a team could have.

We aren't the only ones who have been questioning Irsay and think that his decision was insane. That's been the sentiment from around the league since Reich 2as fited....abd then replaced with Saturday who had NO real coaching experience. Few, if any, were surprised by Rhules firing and saw it as only a matter of time and most regard the Reich hire as a smart one. Rhule is seen as a failure at the pro level and only moderately respected at the college level. Nebraska fans thinking that Rhule is great and the reason he didn't do well in Carolina was anything but his fault are on island. A very small corn filled island. Not at all the same type situation, but go ahead and believe it is and enjoy your time on corncob island.

You replace a Reich with a Saturday because you're a flaming coke head. That's what everyone understands.

Because we're the most important part of the equation. Nothing and no one else matters. They're all just fantasy players and coaches.

Yeah no one will see through that

Bingo. You do your job poorly, you lose it. You deliberately do your job poorly, you don't find another job

So it's making poor personnel choices that won't help you win games. Yeah....that's so much better.

Yes he is, because he is saying we should have purposely tanked to get a better pick. The real question is, does or should the team TRY to lose do they can get a better pick? Because that's what tanking is, right? Trying to lose? You might say that it's just not trying to win, but that's the same thing. Trying not to win is trying to lose and there are implications that go WAY beyond trying to lose so we get a better pick. And it's those implications that makes that myopic choice to tank a really bad and foolish idea. He said those who didn't want to tank weren't looking at the big picture, but it's him and everyone else saying by that we should tank who isn't looking at the bigger picture. It's a very narrow-minded view that ONLY looks at the draft.

and purposely sucking even more would have cured it all....

Yeah this thread is going nowhere good. The whole concept is stupid. I mean what's the point of it? "Don't you dare root for the team to win because we might and we get a worse pick?" That's not exactly how that works. I mean if we embrace the suck and, as a fambase, actually WANT to lose for the good of the franchise long term, do you actually think that will affect the outcome? Or is it that you want the franchise to purposely tank? You want the coaching staff to encourage the players to throw games? You know that might be a bit stupid because there's kind of repercussions to that kind of thing. Plus people would be losing jobs. Sorry... The whole thing just stinks of narrow-mindedness.

Have fun with that

lol took me a while but i found it and fixed it. i definitely read it the first time without enough coffee.

that whole season was just an emotional ride. start off with that draft that had us trading back into the first to get Otah after drafting Stewart. bringing back Moose was a big deal and for me bringing in DJ Hackett and Tyler Brayton was a big deal too. then training camp (i lived down there at the time and was there a couple days a week) had that incident with Smith and Lucas. the whole season was just a wild ride that came crashing down at the end when fox & co drove that train off a cliff. yeah i know Jake threw all the INTS, but the whole game was mismanaged before it ever started. i couldn't imagine a better start to the season than that game. chargers just seemed like this team that couldn't be beat.

I said it's not the big issue everyone is making it out to be. it's not the obstacle to success that people are sure it will be. All indications are that he has learned to adapt. It's not an issue for him that he hasn't overcome. No reason to believe that he won't be able to carry that over into the pros. Until it shows to be an actual issue that is causing problems, it's not one. Just like this whole fragile narrative that has been thrown out there. Until he shows that he can't take the hits, which he has been hit plenty and done just fine afterwards, then he can take whatever hits he takes...just like every other QB. Of all the concerns about his size that have been thrown out there, he has shown throughout his career that it isn't as big of a concern as people make them out to be.

just throwing this out there.

were there more vids?